Way OT: 205 mph Speeding Ticket!!

Saw that on a sport bike forum. Found story they had linked(not sure if it's same one, as didn't read yours), hilarious. Reporter going on about how rider wasn't wearing full safety gera, so this was so dangerous. The converse seeming to state that if he simply put on full leathers that an accident at 205mph would be no problem.
 
While you're reading that article, look at the story "Man calls his own funeral".
 
etp777 said:
Saw that on a sport bike forum. Found story they had linked(not sure if it's same one, as didn't read yours), hilarious. Reporter going on about how rider wasn't wearing full safety gera, so this was so dangerous. The converse seeming to state that if he simply put on full leathers that an accident at 205mph would be no problem.
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Amazing. At that speed if he hit something he would fly close to 300 feet in the first second after he left the bike, unless stopped by a tree or something even more solid. The length of a football field. If that happened they could probably bury him in a zip-loc baggie.

Out here every year they have the Superbike races at Laguna Seca and every ninja rider wannabe is out in force tearing up the road. There is a good flat length of Hwy 68 about 3 miles long with just some gentle (read high-speed) curves from Toro park into Salinas, and I like to stretch my cars legs a bit coming home sometimes. I have been up to 120 on that road and had these guys on superbikes blow by me like I was standing still. Scary. 4 wheels with the right car is one thing, but that speed while bent over a little crotch rocket is something else entirely!

Regards,

Norm
 
I once had a stock 1988 (two years old at the time) 1000cc Honda Hurricane to 150 mph on an expressway late at night. Crouched behind the fairing it was relatively quiet. Could have gone some faster, but started thinking...

I kept it too long becasue of a certain event. A friend brought his young wife by to see my "new" motorcycle. I would not let him ride it because I was afraid he would get hurt. So he asked me to take his young wife for a ride.

She was a very quiet person. I gave her a good run. She was so light I could hardly tell she was there. When we got back he asked her how she liked the ride. She said, "It was great! I don't know if I came or just wet my pants."

Truthfully the thing scared me. The acceleration was ungodly and I knew that somewhere along it would get me. So I sold it.

I still have a 1959 BMW R69s (needs restoring) and a 1988 Honda VLX Shadow. Neat bikes both.

I have been riding for 40 years now. Had some falls, but nothing close to life threatening. I think that this is because,

THERE ARE OLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS AND THERE ARE BOLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS, BUT THERE ARE NO OLD AND BOLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS.
 
Bill Marsh said:
I still have a 1959 BMW R69s (needs restoring) and a 1988 Honda VLX Shadow. Neat bikes both.

I have been riding for 40 years now. Had some falls, but nothing close to life threatening. I think that this is because,

THERE ARE OLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS AND THERE ARE BOLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS, BUT THERE ARE NO OLD AND BOLD MOTORCYCLE RIDERS.
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Bill? You need to ship that old beemer to me. (your treat) Winter will be long up here. Thank you in advance.

I had just gotten my 100,000 mile award from BMW the year I had my accident. I was doing 4-6 mph. The truck was doing 60, and hit me, then hit his brakes. Micro-movements, micro-seconds, micro-angles were the difference between dead, paralyzed, and bad hurt. At 60mph impact, helmet had a life-saving difference for me. At 204? Hah ! Closed skull injury would render brain mass to jello.

204 is doable, probably. The new Japanese rockets routinely do 160 out-the-door. They keep making them bigger and faster.

Sadly, the young men who will do the speed are the ones who would BUY the bikes.

On the other hand, 30,000 Americans die of the flu annually.

However, the flu deaths are neater.

Be well and safe.

(contact me when I should expect shipment of the bike, Bill. Thanks.)



Kis
 
Kismet said:
Sadly, the young men who will do the speed are the ones who would BUY the bikes.

Kis
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Not just the young guys...:rolleyes:
Several years ago, '56 or '57 when the Mercedes Gull Wing Coupe came out there was an older fellow in Tulsa who bought one. That was back when they gave you a time in and time out slip when you entered and left the Turner Turnpike so they could keep a record of your speed. The old fooker drove his Mercedes in excess of 150 mph back, don't recall the speed they computed from his time in and out slips but he made the 99/102 mile trip in like 25 minutes or so!:eek:
And the old fooker got a goodly ticket outta the deal but said it was worth it (and besides if he could afford the Mercedes he could afford the ticket) to see if the advertised speed was true. It was.:D

Back on the topic of fast motorcycles...
My late young son was killed on a 1,000 Kawasaki doing in excess of way over 100 mph.:(
We drive by the very spot every time we have to go into Tulsa on I-244, it has gotten a bit easier as time goes by but always brings a pang of regret and missing him every time we go by and under Sheridan Road on the freeway.:(
There had been one of the huge old boaty station wagons parked on the shoulder for several days, usually moved after three days but wasn't this time, Tommy hit the back end of the heavy old station wagon and moved it 30 feet or better ahead of where it had been parked.:eek:
No helmet but wouldn't have mattered anyway, broke his neck on impact along with fatal internal injuries any of which would've killed him instantly as well!:(
At least he didn't feel any pain nor have time to say, DON"T!, as he also had an alcohol blood content of .28 and .10 was the legal limit then.
I suppose it's better than dieing of a drug overdose or AIDS contracted from a dirty needle, or from a drug deal went bad though, and for that I'm grateful he went out the way he did.
 
A guy that used to work with my wife lost his wife after a long illness. To help him get on with his life, he decided to do some things that his wife would never let him do. So he got a tattoo, and a Harley.

Two weeks later he had broken both arms and both legs and was in a full body cast.

A widowed co-worker helped him get around while he was in his cast. They both retired, got married and lived happily ever after, but he never rode a motorcycle again or never got another tattoo.
 
There are way, way too many motorcycle tragedies. It's great to ride one, but unless you live in the boonies (think enduro) ther'e just so dangerous. A careless car driver might beat up your car, but you won't get a 2nd chance on a bike. Not your fault, you'll have to tell St. Peter. Everything's dangerous. Loaded guns & khuks all over the place are too. Control what you can. Wish I could drive a tank. I would. Very sorry to hear Y's story. Reminded me of what happened to my cousin. Like I said, too many.

Life is precious. You get one. Let's be as careful as we can.
AA
 
Yep, and everyone has to weigh the risksa themselves. Currently, single, no kids. I bought a bike this year. No close calls yet, though I did hit one cat. only animal I've ever hit in any vehicle, and yes, it bothered me.

Now would I have bought the bike this year if I was married, and had a baby at home? POssibly not, I dunno. First off, probably wouldn't have been able to afford it if I did. :) But not sure how it would change my mindset.

My dad rode for years, worked at bike shops for years. Had one accident, was in body cast, hip and knee never healed right, screws in shoulder. 20-30 years later, he had to have hip replaced, and a good chance he'll have to have knee replaced in next 5 or so. Growing up, think I remember about 3 occasions of him getting on a bike. Once was just a dirt bike at friends house, took me for a ride. And then for a few weeks or so, borrowed a bike from a friend as his car was out of commission and didn't have the money to fix it.

Now, youngest of us turns 20 this year, all out of house, either for college, or jsut completely moved out, such as me. My dad is looking at getting a bike again. Won't drive it on commute(from NW suburbs down into Chicago and back), but wants to take weekend trips with friend who has bike. Mom has toldhim he could.

I don't know that I would have always made same decisions in same situations as he did. I think overall though, does a good job of showing that you can ride safely, and not so safely(the accident that puthim in body cast was in no way his fault, but as Ad Astra said, it happensa, and you can't really change it). As his life changed, the options/risks weighed out differently each time, and he made his decisions accordingly.

There are many things that I would never do myself, but that I don't look down on other people for making that decision. Ha, heck, there are many things that I do do myself that I look down a bit on otheres when they choose to do same thing. :)

Life is full of risks. I shoot, turn wrenches(as a hobby), work with power tools(making knives and other uses), play with knives, reload, ride a bike. All are more dangerous than sitting around in the house all day watching TV. Yet, all are more rewarding, at least to my particular personality and mindset than the same sitting around and watching tv. For my particular personality, place in life and surroundings, the risks are outweighed by the benefits in each of these past times.

I guess not much of a point to this rambling. WOuld like to point out again haven't taken my bike over 100 indicated though. ;) Course, it's an Aero 750, just a comfortable cruiser, and bone stock in way of pipes/engine/intake. If I had the 919 that I want when I dig up money for a second bike, may go a bit faster. :D Course, by the time I could afford that, may be married and have a kid, which as I said, would change my perspective yet again so that something that seems like it'd be great fun now, would jmust look unbelievably stupid then.

Course, doing 100 on I44 in nothing but jeans and a tshirt looked pretty stupid but it didn't stop me. :)
 
More 205mph....bored yet?
> by Canadian_Chief
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>Ticket revs up 205-mph questions
>Terry Collins and Curt Brown, Star Tribune
>September 26, 2004 FASTBIKES0926
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>To some, he's a folk hero. Others are calling him an idiot.
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>Everybody, it seems, is talking about Samuel Armstrong Tilley, the 20-year-old Stillwater motorcyclist ticketed last

weekend for going 205 miles per hour on Hwy. 61 near Wabasha.
>
>Consider it the ticket heard 'round the world.
>
>In the week since a State Patrol pilot's stopwatch clocked Tilley's Honda RC51 at historic speeds, every gear-head

chatroom, mechanic's garage and biker bar from Sturgis, S.D., to Los Angeles has been buzzing about Tilley's alleged

exploits.
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>A photo of the ticket has been posted on the Web (http: //www.thesmokinggun.com/ archive/0922042speed1.html).
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>Tilley was even the talk of Two-Wheel Tuesday, a national cable TV fix for motorcycle aficionados on the Speed

Channel.
>
>SpeculatorsJudy GriesedieckStar TribuneAll of which prompts a couple questions: How could a so-called crotch

rocket, with limited gear ratios, go that fast amid thousands of riders on the annual Flood Run along the bluffs north of

Winona?
>
>And why has Tilley suddenly become an urban legend?
>
>"Certainly anyone who flouts the law to that extent is seen by some as a latter-day Robin Hood, flying in the face of

authority and doing stuff we all want to do but common sense stops us from," said David Edwards, editor-in-chief of

Cycle World, a popular magazine out of Newport Beach, Calif.
>
>"Basically, it's like stepping out of a small airplane, if indeed he was going 200 mph," said Edwards, who like many

experts, doubts Tilley topped 200 mph.
>
>"It's extremely unlikely that that bike was going that fast," he said. "More likely, the cop with the stopwatch had an itchy

trigger finger."
>
>State Patrol pilot Al Loney, a 27-year veteran, and his superiors stand by their stopwatch, which clocked Tilley going a

quarter-mile in 4.39 seconds.
>
>Among the doubters is former St. Paul Police Chief Bill Finney, who was riding a Boss Hoss bike with a V-8 car

engine during the Flood Run.
>
>"The most common viewpoint is: That Honda could not have done 205 miles per hour," Finney said. "There are

Suzukis that can go 180 miles per hour out of the crate, and racing Hondas may get there after spending a million

bucks on them. That 200 miles per hour is a tough nut to crack, but those crotch-rocket guys are a whole other breed."
>
>Who is Tilley?
>
>The only one who knows for sure how fast Tilley was going isn't talking. Tilley did not return numerous reporters' calls

for his side of the story.
>
>He was born in New Ulm and graduated last spring from Stillwater High School.
>
>"He was a cocky kid, kind of arrogant," said Laurie Hansen, his English teacher.
>
>Records show that his father, Dean Tilley, is a patrol sergeant for the Washington County Sheriff's Office, and his

stepmother, who co-owns the motorcycle, is a nurse.
>
>Tilley's mother, Mary, died of a sudden illness a decade ago when Tilley was 10. There's a toddler playground in

Oakdale named after her; she helped transform an old dump into the park.
>
>Tilley purchased his 2002 Honda RC51 last summer from Tousley Motorsports in White Bear Lake, where he once

worked. Tousley President Larry Koch insists Tilley is a nice guy.
>
>"But I really want to ask him: 'What in the hell were you thinking?' " Koch said.
>
>Meeting the legend
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>Devin Harrington, 32, of Minneapolis, was among the thousands of riders on the Flood Run along Hwy. 61 on Sept.

18. Stopping for gas near Wabasha, he remembers seeing a clean-cut kid wearing jeans and racing boots and sitting

on a curb as riders sped past.
>
>Curious, Harrington asked him what happened. The rider said his bike was towed because he got a speeding ticket.
>
>In a "smart-alecky way," Harrington asked how fast was he going. Nonchalantly, Tilley told him, "Well, they gave me a

ticket for 205."
>
>"Bull!" Harrington blurted out, only to have Tilley show him the ticket to prove it. Harrington had a buddy take a picture

of the ticket with his cell phone for posterity.
>
>That ticket lists fines of $215 for going 140 mph over the limit, $115 for failing to have his motorcycle endorsement

with him and a reckless driving charge. Tilley is scheduled to appear in Wabasha County Court on Oct. 25.
>
>Four days later, Harrington had forgotten the whole matter, when his dentist brought it up while checking his teeth. The

kid on the sidewalk, he realized, had become a cause célèbre.
>
>"This is hilarious," said Harrington, who has been riding for 17 years. "Now, we'll have some idiot trying to top that

mark, whether it is true or not. They will try killing themselves, for what? To see who's the fastest?"
>
>Reaction to Tilley's ticket has motorcycle enthusiasts across the country spinning their wheels. Not only is it the record

speeding ticket in Minnesota, but it reportedly tops William Faenza's national record ticket for going 182 mph in a

Lamborghini Diablo in Pennsylvania last spring. And Faenza's ride had four wheels.
>
>"He's upset the whole sport bike world," said Erie Presley, 43, of Salt Lake City. "Not so much that he broke the law,

but he apparently broke several racing records, and we're wondering if he really did it."
>
>Glenn Conser, president of the Motorcycle Roadracing Association in Denver, has tracked all the chatter on Web

sites.
>
>"It's been funny to read the different reactions that go from: 'Wow, how cool is that,' to 'What a moron!' " Conser said.
>
>Tim Carrithers, editor of Motorcyclist magazine in Los Angeles, said his phone rang nonstop as word of Tilley's speed

spread nationwide.
>
>"The guy couldn't have gone that fast, no way," said Carrithers, adding that his staff members once clocked an RC51

at a high of 163 mph during a magazine review of the bike in 2000. "There's no street bike in stock that will approach

that speed."
>
>Dean of speed
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>No one in Minnesota knows more about speed than Marv Jorgenson, 63, owner of Chopper City in Fridley. He's been

racing motorcycles and boats for 45 years and holds a world snowmobile record of 190 mph.
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>Jorgenson was among the Flood Run riders. He even saw Loney's plane clocking the bikers and warned his fellow

riders to watch out. With countless bikes going about 70 mph, Jorgenson wonders how someone going three times

that fast wouldn't run over riders ahead.
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>"It was like rush hour out there," he said. "I don't know how you can call a trooper a liar, but if the bike's not capable of

going that fast ... ."
>
>Jorgenson said the bike's fuel-injection system would cut out unless expensive modifications were made. Nate

Northrup, one of Tilley's coworkers at Tousley said he remembers Tilley adding on a set of slip-on exhaust mufflers.
>
>"They're supposed to add a little bit of horsepower, but I don't think they do anything but make a lot of noise," said

Northrup.
>
>Edwards, the editor of Cycle World, said a turbo charger would need to be added to get Tilley's bike north of 165

mph.
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>"There are lots of guys who have been spending a lot of money and a lot of years at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah

trying to join the official 200 Club and most still haven't done it," Edwards said. "It's a pretty remarkable feat to go that

fast on a motorcycle and I doubt that's what happened here."
>
>Edwards said he once rode a bike at 175 mph.
>
>"Between the wind tearing at you, the engine screaming and the leather flapping, it's not a fun place to be," he said.
>
>And Koch, Tilley's former boss, figures the butt-kicking that the 200-mph man probably received from his

patrol-sergeant father wasn't much of a fun place to be either.
>
>"But when this is all over," Koch said, "he can get a jacket that reads: 'I'm the fastest man in Minnesota and I have a

ticket to prove it, too.' "
>
>Librarian Linda Sack and staff writer Matt McKinney contributed to this report.
>
>The writers are at tcollins@startribune.com and curt.brown@startribune.com.
>
>
 
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