Support BladeForums! Paid memberships don't see ads! Heat treat is one of the most important aspects of a highly optimized high performance knife. We develop our optimized heat treat here and are capable of running heat treat here, but our "good" Lindbergh Blue oven is too small for our choppers and our "not as good" big Evenheat really isn't very even and our cryo chamber isn't capable of large batches and our heat treat process is time consuming and filled with bottlenecks. The reality is, as we've gotten bigger we're unable to do our own process here in the scale we need. Despite being metallurgy nerds we are not a commercial heat treat shop and in my opinion trying to extend ourselves into an area that isn't truly our core competency will lead to unnecessary compromise. Our process is not easily duplicated at other shops. I've attempted to qualify other shops and none but Peter's is capable, and even then it took development and changes to their process to duplicate it. As a result, despite the fact they are a large organization, our process runs on very specific areas in their shop and part of that is a specific oven and that oven has been down for rework. We have four batches there now and two more staged here ready to go. This is quite a back log. We owe people Competition Cutters, HDFK pre-order and Behemoths. The purpose of this thread is to communicate there is a logjam and it involves their knives. I don't see any problems completing the work by the end of the year, so I believe we will meet our commitments, but instead of the even distribution we'd wanted it's probably going to be more of a "spurt". There are some other options and work-arounds, but I'm not comfortable pursuing them. Heat treat is not an area where I want to take risks so we're going to wait. Due to Jonny's upcoming competition on KOD we're prioritizing a batch of Behemoths to be the first blades to be processed, hopefully in about ten days. I will update this first post with information as it becomes available. Update 7-30-18: Peter's is starting to move again. We got three 12" BC squeezed through the process and hardened. They arrived here on Friday and they're ground and in tumble now. Two are for Jonny and the KOD show, one I guess will go to the pre-order. There are approximately 140 more waiting for heat treat but about half of those should be heading back our way soon. The Competition Cutters are next in line after that. Update 8-9-18 Half of the BC have arrived from heat treat and we're processing them now. Also, the Comp Choppers are back and I will get back to finishing out a few every week.