Websites for knifemakers?

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Cara did my site, and it has worked very well. The user interface is intuitive, making updating your site easy. I sell most of my knives via internet classifieds, and because I have a web link in my signature line, I've been picking up one or two orders for every knife I sell.
http://www.frycustomknives.com
 
sounds like a nice deal for any one who can't or don't have time to do it them self :)

DC
 
Seriously? Are you an expert in website valuation? Have you looked at the market so that you might have some idea of what market value is? Most websites for businesses run in the multiple thousands. With this offer you get a completely original theme, as many pages as you want to add (once it is set up there is no limit), a gallery, and even get set up for Paypal and have product support, which means that Cara will teach you how to use it, and remind you when you forget. This deal is a steal, and it is clear, Josh K, that you HAVE NO IDEA what you are talking about. I'm not sure what your motivation for posting your obviously uninformed comment was, but I can't imagine that it could possibly be good. Thanks for hijacking my thread.
 
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Seriously? Are you an expert in website valuation? Have you looked at the market so that you might have some idea of what market value is? Most websites for businesses run in the multiple thousands. With this offer you get a completely original theme, as many pages as you want to add (once it is set up there is no limit), a gallery, and even get set up for Paypal and have product support, which means that Cara will teach you how to use it, and remind you when you forget. This deal is a steal, and it is clear, Josh K, that you HAVE NO IDEA what you are talking about. I'm not sure what your motivation for posting your obviously uninformed comment was, but I can't imagine that it could possibly be good.
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I said it was "a bit steep" not "totally out of line." I've been doing web work for the last 5 years. It wasn't meant to be inflammatory. If you want a cost / time break down for a similar web site I could give it.

Business class websites can run well into the 5 figure range, and I've worked on sites like that. They have integrated shopping carts, are built to be fully dynamic, extend into the four figure page range (all dynamically generated), offer user / client log in, integrated email and inventory, and handle massive web traffic loads. None of which you'd need for a knife makers site.
 
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Shoot then. Let's hear it. If about half of market value is "a bit steep," I'd love to see your cost/time breakdown and how you arrive at your conclusion.
 
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Shoot then. Let's hear it. If about half of market value is "a bit steep," I'd love to see your cost/time breakdown and how you arrive at your conclusion.
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Taking a look at your site and a basic WP install.

Original Theme Design -> Time and client dependent. Some are fine with precut templates, fully custom designs with javascript and flash work can get pricey.

Five Pages -> Templating the pages means you're just changing the content. No page limit.

Easily Updateable News or Events Section -> Easy as in edit one file.

PayPal Integration -> Piece of cake

Contact Form -> $25 - 50 depending on how complex it is.

Site Management Tutorial -> You mean showing you how to run the site?

Search Engine Optimization -> Joke.

Help Purchasing Your Domain and Hosting -> Starting at $3.99 a month.

Email Support -> Standard.

Basically you've listed a $50 web site. SEO optimization is easy, a contact (email or order) form is the only pricey bit. Template design takes a little time, but that's it.
 
Wow! You really are out of touch. You know, if your knives were the crappiest ever made (I'm sure they're not, but just for illustration) I'd have the decency to keep my mouth shut and let the market teach the lesson. A premium theme with no support, no setup, no contact forms, no paypal or ecommerce, and no support costs $80 to start.
 
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Wow! You really are out of touch. You know, if your knives were the crappiest ever made (I'm sure they're not, but just for illustration) I'd have the decency to keep my mouth shut and let the market teach the lesson. A premium theme with no support, no setup, no contact forms, no paypal or ecommerce, and no support costs $80 to start.
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So you're saying I'm a bargain? Cool. :) Hell, a $50 website when I was making them also included 250 business cards with a custom template design.

Either that, or you think they have a need for an ecommerce site. Ask around. How many of these guys make knives full time for a living? Perhaps then a nicer site would be warranted.
 
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I have a friend who makes websites and its rare for him to do anything for under 4-500 bucks. That is what he charges for a simple website with the paypal function. 300 dollars is a deal to me, and if I get a discount for being from TX even better.;):cool:

Edited to add, Of course my buddy will help me with mine for a 12 pack of brewskies.
 
I appreciate your support, Panch0. We should talk. I'm trying to get the Mods to delete this whole post because it makes my wife's blood pressure go up whenever she even thinks about it. Some people must just be desperate for attention.
 
Why - in your own words you were "just fishing to see if this is an idea worth pursuing".

Someone gives you some feed back that you don't like and you get upset?:confused:
 
I don't think it's a bad idea. I don't really know much about computers or websites, but I think 300 dollars for a five page site is pretty decent. A friend of mine's sister offered to make me a website, but she said it would cost $200 and that is for one page only. I still haven't gotten one done up yet. One page only seems kinda useless. I don't find that $50 for a website to be even feasible.:confused:
 
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Other than your quickness to argue, i think its a good value and i really like the design, if texas A&M wasent robbing me of my money i would love your help. perhaps if your still in the business during the Christmas season il try to get the funds. how much is it usually per month to keep your site up? i have no idea if Josh K's post was a low baller style comment because i dont know much about web design or the work that goes into it, but when presented with situations like that i usually just ignore it so i dont give potential customers a bad first impression. just my .02. thanks - stan
 
You should really upgrade your subscription to be selling anything here.
Sounds like a good deal tho.
Mace
 
R.C.Reichert said:
I don't think it's a bad idea. I don't really know much about computers or websites, but I think 300 dollars for a five page site is pretty decent. A friend of mine's sister offered to make me a website, but she said it would cost $200 and that is for one page only. I still haven't gotten one done up yet. One page only seems kinda useless. I don't find that $50 for a website to be even feasible.:confused:
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People are confused by the pricing. Working at $20/hr you can have a basic, fully expandable (as many pages as you want), site in 3-4 hours. Working some design kinks out might take a day (nonbillable). Email support is constant and continuous, the client (you) takes responsibility for the web hosting costs ($3-4/monthly).

I know you can charge $300+ for a simple website, I just don't think it's right to charge that much for something so simple, especially from people who aren't making the website a full time retail workhorse. I find pro bono web work to be much more satisfying then asking for money. It could be just me.

I'm sorry for the thread hijack, I did not mean to present a "lowball" offer, more of an "at cost" comparison.
 
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Josh the $20 dollars an hour is for an employee wage though. When you buy the software, use up your own time, put you name on the line as far as quality, support after you close the deal, your time and effort are worth more than $20 an hour. I understand what you are trying to say though. I still think it is a fair deal, and not an unheard price. If you rented an office and worked out of it, paid insurance and employee wages then prices go up. It kind of sounded like you were looking for trouble by posting a one line negative comment. You should have elaborated a little bit more on why you thought what you said. Anyways wordsmith you should upgrade your membership to avoid further problems like this.

-frank
 
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