WEeeee!!

I like the design, and appreciate the work that went into it's creation. I just think aesthetically WE went a bit too far. I much prefer this interpretation of Mr. Ishams designs

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Nautique said:
Rebadged Brous?
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Same designer, as others have said, and IMHO the Brous Raven is a great carry (never thought I'd say that...)

Rick said:
I've pre-ordered one. Sometimes, ya just gotta lighten up and have some fun with this stuff. After close to forty years of knife collecting, I have enough utilitarian users to last several lifetimes. I mean, how many essentially redundant tools does anyone really need? I think the Eschaton is a ballsy design and manufacturing statement. They knew full well that this thing would be polarizing. Hell, the fact that it offends the more conservative knife nuts around here is just the icing on the titanium.
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My thoughts exactly.

When I saw the pre-order it didn't take a second thought to hop on it...

Such a pleasure not to see just another gray turd :D

-Michael
 
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It makes perfect sense for a customer who wants to carry a slightly-functional piece of manufacturing virtuosity, just to entertain themselves. (I'm not that guy.)

It makes perfect sense for WE to do this, to demonstrate the complexity and consistency they can achieve at large scale and mainstream prices.

It makes perfect sense as the star of a half hour 4K slow-mo cringe video, cutting soft cheeses.
 
If it was at ZT. Limited edition i think the people who are hating on this knife would say how bad ass it is.
I bet it is very comfortable and would make a great edc. I’ll know soon.
 
Saying this knife is inpractical is like saying the spyderco shaman is ugly.

Duhh...

This isn't made to purely be a good cutting tool, it's made to be a show off design and manufacturing.
 
basmca said:
Saying this knife is inpractical is like saying the spyderco shaman is ugly.

Duhh...

This isn't made to purely be a good cutting tool, it's made to be a show off design and manufacturing.
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It doesn't have to be ugly and impractical to show off design or manufacturing capability. From a manufacturing point, nothing on that knife hasn't been done before, or shows any cutting edge machining techniques. I happen to work in the manufacturing industry as a programmer/ 5 axis machinist.

Does it look well put together? Yes, How are the tolerances and execution? Idk I haven't held one of them. How's the overall design come across? Not good.
 
Wow is right! Just got mine today and it exceeds my expectations. Flawless fit and finish all around, super comfortable in the hand, light as a feather (CF version is 3oz even), perfect detent, and buttery smooth. I wasn't 100% sure that I'd like it, but once I had it in-hand I was completely sold. They really have these things dialed-in. I'm tempted to grab the blue/bronze version while it lasts.
 
For those of you who get them, speak to it's functionality and ergonomics. Those seem to be the perceived points of contention for this knife.
 
I guess I’ll probably be in the minority here, as I’ll be sending mine back. Overall it’s a beautiful knife, ridiculously light for its size, and pretty nice construction.

So why am I sending it back? A few reasons:

1) First time flipping it open, she only opened halfway. Sigh... Just reminds me of my ZT 0560 that was a lousy flipper. Being a front flipper, I guess there is a bit of a learning curve, but I feel like the detent should make this thing fire without fail, especially at this price.

2) Ergonomics are good in one hand position, and that's about it. Flipping it around into various positions results in numerous hot spots and general discomfort.

3) Something I just can't put my finger on, maybe I've become spoiled over the years, but I guess I was just expecting more. More what, I'm not sure, it just seems like something is missing to me. For $350 this should have been a flawless execution, and I just don't feel like it's quite there when compared to Reate and the like.

I was really excited for this knife and wanted to like it, but after opening it, examining and flipping a few times, I boxed it back up and submitted my request to return it. Just underwhelmed I guess. I'm picky about where I spend my money and typically use my knives. While it is a nice knife in its own right, it doesn't win a permanent spot in my collection.
 
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Inspiribomb said:
I guess I’ll probably be in the minority here, as I’ll be sending mine back. Overall it’s a beautiful knife, ridiculously light for its size, and pretty nice construction.

So why am I sending it back? A few reasons:

1) First time flipping it open, she only opened halfway. Sigh... Just reminds me of my ZT 0560 that was a lousy flipper. Being a front flipper, I guess there is a bit of a learning curve, but I feel like the detent should make this thing fire without fail, especially at this price.

2) Ergonomics are good in one hand position, and that's about it. Flipping it around into various positions results in numerous hot spots and general discomfort.

3) Something I just can't put my finger on, maybe I've become spoiled over the years, but I guess I was just expecting more. More what, I'm not sure, it just seems like something is missing to me. For $350 this should have been a flawless execution, and I just don't feel like it's quite there when compared to Reate and the like.

I was really excited for this knife and wanted to like it, but after opening it, examining and flipping a few times, I boxed it back up and submitted my request to return it. Just underwhelmed I guess. I'm picky about where I spend my money and typically use my knives. While it is a nice knife in its own right, it doesn't win a permanent spot in my collection.
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"Being a front flipper, I guess there is a bit of learning curve." The knife is not a front flipper... I guess I know why it didn' t flip properly for you lol;)
 
I think it's pretty obvious that this knife was intended purely as an artistic manufacturing showcase rather than a workaday tool. That said, the ergos are actually quite good. There're no obvious hotspots in the standard saber grip, and the choil and swooping thumb ramp allow you to comfortably choke way up on the blade for good tip control. It comes shaving sharp and the bevels are reasonably thin behind the edge. It flips perfectly every time for me.

I have absolutely no interest in using it--why bother when there are literally millions of perfectly utilitarian designs available?--but I think it would work just fine for light to medium tasks that befit a lightweight gent's knife. I don't think it's really any less usable than many of the other compound grind designs out there, though I'd definitely keep it away from that block of soft Gorgonzola and stick with opening packages containing more knives.

Sharpening with ceramic rods shouldn't be a problem.
 
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Idahonotu said:
"Being a front flipper, I guess there is a bit of learning curve." The knife is not a front flipper... I guess I know why it didn' t flip properly for you lol;)
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Fair enough. Either way, knives at this price point have no excuse for a poorly tuned detent in my opinion.
 
This knife shows some serious manufacturing talent for any production company. Using m390, milling and grinding a blade like this and combining carbon fiber and titanium in such a complex way for this price point is something to be admired. imho is the most collectable chinese production knife ive seen in a while.
 
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