Weekend drinkin'

It took me almost 25 years to realize I can't handle drinking. (slow learner)
Haven't had a drop in about 8 years now. I'm not sure what the average life expectancy for a man is now. 72 or so I think. If I make it until then I plan to start drinking and smoking again since any time after that is just lagniappe:D
 
My favorites are (taking into account economics ;) )

Miller Lite
Busch
Makers Mark
Knob Creek
Rain Vodka
1800 Reposado


Currently drinking 1800
 
Harvard University did a study of their students and found 40 % were binge drinkers.

Funny thing about that is, they usually define "binge drinking" as 5 drinks in a day. BS! That's not a binge, it's lunch! Polishing off a case, now THAT's a binge.

I got a bottle of the Jack-Daniels single barrel last night and DAMN is that some tasty stuff.

Is that the stuff they call Gentleman Jack? I got a bottle of that as a gift for standing up in a friend's wedding, very good. Doesn't have that JD/gasoline aftertaste at all. The only difference is, they charcoal filter it again after it's aged, then water it down to 80proof like normal.

If you like good bourbon, try Booker's from Jim Beam. Single barrel, aged 8 years or so, not diluted... the last bottle I had was marked 124proof and smooth as silk. For sippping, not whiskey-cokes, of course. It's expensive, around $45/bottle but it'll last a year if you save it for a treat, special occasions, toasts etc. Then again, $45 is cheap compared to what people will pay for peat-squeezin's, I mean Scotch.

The tastiest whiskey I ever had was some Crown Royal that had been moldering in the basement of a bar for over 20 years, factory sealed with the tax stamp still on it. Tasted like caramel but not as sweet.
 
Is that the stuff they call Gentleman Jack? I got a bottle of that as a gift for standing up in a friend's wedding, very good. Doesn't have that JD/gasoline aftertaste at all. The only difference is, they charcoal filter it again after it's aged, then water it down to 80proof like normal.

Jack Daniels is a blended whiskey. Like all whiskeys, is matured in wooden barrels. Each barrel holds about 50 gallons. The aging takes place over the course of five to ten years. Each barrel is individually tasted each year or so to decide when it's ready (my dream job). Most barrels will not have the classic Jack Daniels flavor profile. Just as a simple example, one barrel may have to much of a smokey flavor. Another may be to sweet. But, if you blend those two together, the result is right. Basically, they have a desired flavor profile they're trying to achieve and they blend different barrels together to get that profile. This is all done manually and all by taste (my dream job).

Gentleman Jack gets another trip through the charcoal filter before going out. That removes a bit of the remaining harsh flavors.

Every once in a while, the tasters find a magic barrel that, for some reason, has matured to some sort of perfection unto itself; it needs no blending. That they bottle and sell as Single Barrel.

Because they blend for a specific flavor profile, the classic Jack Daniels Black Label Old No. 7 and also the Gentleman Jack are very consistent -- not perfect since human taste is involved -- from bottle-to-bottle, year-to-year. The Single Barrel, on the other hand, varies considerably from barrel-to-barrel. Each Barrel produces only, at most, 250 bottles. The taste profile they look for in Single Barrel is not specific but is simply some sort of extraordinary perfection. So, if you've had JD Single Barrel in the past, well you probably haven't had the JD Single Barrel that's in the stores today. And if you find a bottle you really like, the barrel number is on the label so run -- don't walk -- to the store where you got it and see if they have more.
 
The tastiest whiskey I ever had was some Crown Royal that had been moldering in the basement of a bar for over 20 years, factory sealed with the tax stamp still on it. Tasted like caramel but not as sweet.


Whiskies (which is a family of spirits that includes Scotch and bourbon) don't generally age much in the bottle. They may settle down a bit in the first year, but, after that, it's down-hill if anything.

When you see a ten-year-old Pinot Noir wine, for example, that ten years is bottle time. Wine continues to change and evolve dramatically in the bottle. But, when you see a ten-year-old whiskey, that's barrel time. Once bottled, they really don't change much and rarely for the better.

Crown Royal is a blended whiskey just like JD. They mature it in barrels of about 50 gallons and then blend the different barrels to achieve a desired and consistent flavor profile. Crown Royal is also a Canadian Whiskey. Canadian Whiskies are usually sweeter, more caramel; that is the flavor profile they blend to.

BUT, you are absolutely right to say that an old bottle of Crown Royal will be sweeter than a modern one. Canadian whiskey houses have been drying up their profiles (less sweet) lately. They're doing this to more appeal to the American market which prefers a drier (less sweet) whiskey.

Many whiskies are blended. Some wines are too. Becasue they don't change much in the bottle, blended whiskies can be kept in their bottle for a long time. But, wine does change in the bottle. So, blended wines tend not to have long cellar potential. Three wines that blended together great this year probabaly won't be that great three years from now when each has changed, possibly in different directions.

I mentioned blended whiskey where multiple barrels possibly from different years are blended to achieve a desired flavor profile which can be very consistent from bottle-to-bottle over a very large batch and also from year-to-year. I mentioned single-barrel whiskey which is, as the name implies, taken from a single barrel that just happens to mature to some sort of perfection.

As long as I'm holding forth, I should mention single-malt whiskey. Single-malt is blended, but it only blends barrels made from a single malting (generally a single year's production). As a result, it is not possible to hold a totally-consistent profile batch-to-batch. This does lead to some sense of "good year" and "bad year." Every now and then, it leads to something like the 1974 18-year Macallan. (BTW, when whiskey is labeled with a calendar year, it's the year in which it was distilled which is contrast to wine which is labeled with the year it was bottled in.) I'd say there's three shots left in the bottom of my bottle of 1974 Macallan 18 which I was lucky enough to purchase in 1992 before it got discovered; last I saw the 1974 Maccallan 18 offered on a wine list, my three shots are worth $150 each.
 
That's cool, I didn't know the Single Barrel was a whole different entity. I understand how whiskey is made and aged. How many times can a charred barrel be used before it loses some of it's "flavor"? (If I remember right, charred oak is the standard for bourbons, not sure about other whiskies/spirits). Sorry if this is gettin a little off-track :)

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How many times can a charred barrel be used before it loses some of it's "flavor"?

A barrels may be used once or twice; it can then be scraped out, recharred (toasted is the jargon) and used a second time. You can get maybe four batches out of a barrel if you're lucky. But, Jack Daniels is barrel-aged an average of seven years. So, a barrel may give 28 years (or more) of service.

A lot of scotch is made in used barrels deliberately, but barrels that were used to make port or sherry. This imparts an extra flavor to the whiskey.

Some Kentucky bourbons are aged in maple barrels. Maple is a sugarwood. The bourbon whiskey will actually pick up some of that sugar imparting a sweetness and a subtle maple flavor.
 
Good info,as usual. Thx!

Some Kentucky bourbons are aged in maple barrels. Maple is a sugarwood. The bourbon whiskey will actually pick up some of that sugar imparting a sweetness and a subtle maple flavor.

I like Kentucky bourbon and I like maple syrup/sugar, guitar necks/tops etc :) Know of any particular brands that are aged in maple barrels?
 
Well I decided to save the Red stripe for the river, picked up half a case of irish red instead. Worked pretty well, spent Sat. night from 2 to 8 sun. morn in the hot tub playing truth or dare, as long as the old lady doesn't find out its all good;) Although honestly there wasn't much call for truth after 3 or so.
 
Chuck,

Your advanced knowledge on such a wide range of topics is amazing. You are an very treasured asset to this forum.

Thanks.
 
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