Weird lockup on new Spyderco Techno

Razorsharp1986

Razorsharp1986

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Hi guys, just decided to share something that I found out about my brand new Spyderco Techno.
I've bought it from a local dealer, and it was perfectly fine at first. The lock-up was solid, no blade play, perfect centering, and the whole rest of it.
However, after a few days of flicking open, it developed some serious lock-rock, which I wasn't able to resolve by tinkering with the pivot.
Upon inspection, I've realized that the locking bar and blade tang is structured like a Strider, which king of explains the lock rock, as all my previous Striders have developed it
, also. This one has developed it way too soon, though.

Any comments or advice?





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You could wait to see if the lock rock disappears after the lock wears in a bit more, or contact Spyderco if it doesn't.
 
Hmm.... Ok. I'm going to see if after more use, the lock-rock disappears, even though I highly doubt it. I actually have a friend, who claims that all his Taiwanese made Spydies have developed lock rock very shortly after he bought them. I'll take some pictures when I get a chance and see him, it sounds quite an intriguing observation.
 
Razorsharp1986 said:
I actually have a friend, who claims that all his Taiwanese made Spydies have developed lock rock very shortly after he bought them.
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A blanket statement like that is hard to believe, especially in the absence of details of use. If a person spends time slamming their knives open, cycling them over and over will wear out and deform the lock faces. I know some peoplle are convinced that it is impossible, but common sense should dictate thatit is indeed a possibility. The Southard I have has been used for about 3 weeks and there is no movement vertically or horizontally. Same goes for the Gayle Bradley I've had and used for almost 2 years, the Sge series, etc.
 
Red Devil, thanks a lot for your insight!
I know that my last statement is quite generic, and I was positive that it'd create responses like yours. You love that Taiwanese product, and would protect it with your flesh! Hooray!

With that being said, I am also a big fan of the Taiwanese made Spidies and haven't had any issues with my Sage or GB, except that time when the GB closed on my finger and nearly cut it off. Sweet!
Had a thread about it years ago. Go check it out!

My friend takes care of his knives, and doesn't abuse them. If he says that he's been having issues, I totally believe him. My post wasn't created to change anybody's thinking, or stir any sh!t up. Just sharing mine and my friend's experience.

Some may not like it 100% and that's okay too. I'm still going to throw that info out there, with some pix of my buddy's knives once I see him.

Cheers!
 
Razorsharp1986 said:
Hmm.... Ok. I'm going to see if after more use, the lock-rock disappears, even though I highly doubt it. I actually have a friend, who claims that all his Taiwanese made Spydies have developed lock rock very shortly after he bought them. I'll take some pictures when I get a chance and see him, it sounds quite an intriguing observation.
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well, you're friend is obviously lying. I know for a fact that the Taichung knives have special enchantments bestowed on them to prevent lock rock. A couple of my frends, their names are Sal and Eric, might come out east for the new year. None of my Spydercos have developed rock lock, or bladeplay that cant be dealt with by adjusting the pivot or body screws, whether they're the Taichung or Golden models. A couple of Seki backlocks have some bladeplay, but I hear that's normal and they have pinned construction.

Seriously, just send it in if you don't want to wait for it to settle.
 
Just another verification of why I no longer buy liner or frame locks. It cuts a lot of knives out of the picture, but I have too many already. I've had too many problems with them and this just shows it is still an ongoing issue.
 
Just out of curiosity those of you who complain about blade play and lock rock.... do you randomly grab your blade and try to wiggle it? I've had a user strider that had blade play but I wouldn't even know it has blade play unless I grabbed the blade and started wiggling it really hard. It doesn't affect performance at all. As others said if it bothers you just simply send it in.
 
Gooeytek, it is very silly of you to bluntly call my friend a liar. You are obviously some irrational fan-boy, who can't get out of the box and admit to different people having different experiences with different knives. Sal and Eric run the company, but don't build the individual knives with their own hands, dude. So relax, take a deep breath, and move on with it. I'm not here to bash the product. I love it myself! Those "special" enhancements that you are referring to are nice and dandy on paper, but reality is that shit happens, and knives develop lock-rock.

The Logical One- you are absolutely correct, the lock-rock is felt only if I do what you've described. I know it doesn't impede performance, but as I've mentioned before- i nearly had my finger snapped off by a GB. Thank you very much.

I'll inspect my buddy's knives when we link up, and if his are displaying such a phenomena, I'm done with the Taichung blades.

Cheers!
 
Razorsharp1986 said:
Gooeytek, it is very silly of you to bluntly call my friend a liar. You are obviously some irrational fan-boy, who can't get out of the box and admit to different people having different experiences with different knives. Sal and Eric run the company, but don't build the individual knives with their own hands, dude. So relax, take a deep breath, and move on with it. I'm not here to bash the product. I love it myself! Those "special" enhancements that you are referring to are nice and dandy on paper, but reality is that shit happens, and knives develop lock-rock.

The Logical One- you are absolutely correct, the lock-rock is felt only if I do what you've described. I know it doesn't impede performance, but as I've mentioned before- i nearly had my finger snapped off by a GB. Thank you very much.

I'll inspect my buddy's knives when we link up, and if his are displaying such a phenomena, I'm done with the Taichung blades.

Cheers!
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Yes! I knew the irrational fanboy name-calling would happen. Silly? Different experiences with different knives? He's claiming to have the same experience on ALL his Taichung Spydercos. How silly is that? Which models does he have? How does he use them that they ALL come to have lock rock? His USA-made Spydercos don't have this problem? What about his Seki ones? Do any of his other knives from different makers have lock rock? do ALL his knives have lock rock? Yes, it's silly. I still assert that he's lying to you about lock rock on ALL his Taichung Spydercos. You're insinuating from his experiences that it's normal for ALL Taichung Spydercos to have lock rock, and that's a pretty serious allegation. Yes, stuff happens, and knives may develop lock rock. ALL knives? really?

I didn't say "enhancements", I said "enchantments" trying to be funny, like there was something magical? you know, fantasy-like? over your head? sorry. I wasn't talking about Sal & Eric Glesser, I really do have a couple of friends named Sal & Eric, but that had nothing to do with Spyderco, I just mentioned it, to drift the seriousness away.


By the way, ALL my Spyderco Seki knives have lock rock and blade play. ALL of them. But then, I only have one. A Calypso with a backlock and pinned construction though. Still, ALL my Japanese Spydercos have that problem. See how silly that sounds?
 
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If I remember correctly the Techno is supposed to have an adjustable stop pin. If you don't want to send it all the way to Spyderco, I would suggest taking it apart ( voids warranty ) and rotating the stop pin some.
 
Steel130 said:
If I remember correctly the Techno is supposed to have an adjustable stop pin. If you don't want to send it all the way to Spyderco, I would suggest taking it apart ( voids warranty ) and rotating the stop pin some.
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Bingo, I did the same thing with my sage 2, which did develop lock rock due to admitted abuse via compulsive flicking. If you obsessively flick open a ti frame lock without a heat treated or carbodized lock face there is a good chance it will develop lock rock, it's just the nature of the beast. I happen to be pretty handy, so when mine developed lock rock I fully intended on cracking the thing open and peening the lock bar (likely the way it's fixed by most manufacturers) but thought I'd better try rotating the stop pin slightly before I made any permanent changes to the lock face and voilà, the lock rock was gone. It's been about a year since then and the lockup is still rock solid. Again, doing this does technically void the warranty, so if you're not 100 percent confident in your ability to fix the problem and not screw anything up then I'd say you're better off sending it in to spyderco. They're warranty is there for a reason, every now and then one slips through the cracks.
 
News flash, folding knives or any other knives for that matter are not worry stones. Stop with the mother luvin flicking or by a cheapo Chinese beater and flick that a bazillion times. This should not have to be said on this forum, it just should not. Senseless fing senseless. Better yet if you insist on flicking the thing open and closed repeatedly then stop complaining on here when the lock starts having problems.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Just another verification of why I no longer buy liner or frame locks. It cuts a lot of knives out of the picture, but I have too many already. I've had too many problems with them and this just shows it is still an ongoing issue.
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Yes sir. While I love the simplicity of a frame lock, I do not trust them as I do other locks. I will admit that the few I have had seemed solid but there is something about a blade being held in place by 2-3 millimeters of a lockbar that creeps me out. I can't imagine a single frame lock that could come close to the integrity of a compression lock.
 
MikeC said:
News flash, folding knives or any other knives for that matter are not worry stones. Stop with the mother luvin flicking or by a cheapo Chinese beater and flick that a bazillion times. This should not have to be said on this forum, it just should not. Senseless fing senseless. Better yet if you insist on flicking the thing open and closed repeatedly then stop complaining on here when the lock starts having problems.
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AMEN!
I dont see:
A- Why you need to flick it
B- How you can get yourself to slam open a knife costing + $50.00
 
There is a difference in flicking a knife open, and wrist whipping it open. There are tons of Kershaws out there that have been assisted open, harder than the casual flick, that still have solid lockup. I had a leek that was cycled probably over 1000 times and the lock bar had barely moved, no bladeplay.
MikeC said:
News flash, folding knives or any other knives for that matter are not worry stones. Stop with the mother luvin flicking or by a cheapo Chinese beater and flick that a bazillion times. This should not have to be said on this forum, it just should not. Senseless fing senseless. Better yet if you insist on flicking the thing open and closed repeatedly then stop complaining on here when the lock starts having problems.
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Razorsharp1986 said:
Red Devil, thanks a lot for your insight!
You love that Taiwanese product, and would protect it with your flesh! Hooray!

Cheers!
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You're weird, bro...

and you have a nasty, nasty agenda.

Your posts deserve the utmost apprehension and criticism.
 
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