Weird or not?

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Two weird or not questions:

1. It seems a large percentage of EDC chatter is about folders. I get it, no sheath, they fit in a pocket, less intimidating, less expensive, lighter etc.

Is it super weird to EDC a small fixed blade (sub 5-inch blade) in an urban environment?

2. The number one usage of the point of a knife (in my experience) is to jab into me when I'm being an idiot.

Would it be weird to grind the tip of a perfectly good CS Master Hunter into a chisel-like tip instead of a point?

2b. Does this explain the apparent trend in chisel tipped survival knives?

Weird or not? You tell me.
 
It's only weirdntonwear a foxed blade if you do it in a way that weirds out other people too badly. If you're weirding out hysterical mothers that is probably ok. But if you are weirding reasonable people or worse, yourself, out then you may have a problem.

2. Nah dawg its not that weird. There is one member here who ground the tip of his Ti-Lite into a squared off chisel. Itnactually looks alright.
 
I guess you're referring to a tanto blade shape, which allows a much thicker, tougher blade tip to be used for rough work.
I would just buy a tanto-bladed knife instead of grinding the one that you have.
 
Sonnydaze said:
I guess you're referring to a tanto blade shape, which allows a much thicker, tougher blade tip to be used for rough work.
I would just buy a tanto-bladed knife instead of grinding the one that you have.
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I think he is talking of a tip more like the Razel than a tanto.
 
1 it's not weird to carry a fixed blade in this size range, and I carry 8¾" oal fixed blades often.

2 removing the tip is extremely weird Because a good sharp tip on an EDC blade is very useful if you know how to utilize it.

3 don't baby proof your life so you can continue to be an idiot without injury, just stop being an idiot some times.

4 I think the whole chisel tip survival knife thing is because people are often foolishly looking for the mythical one tool option.

5 do what you want to your knives, and carry what you want if done legally and responsibly. If you think people will be thinking your an idiot it's probably because you're likely being one.
If you just carry your knife as a tool and don't take it out to fiddle with when you're bored and there are people around you may turn a few heads.
 
A small fixed EDC is fine depending on where you live. I often stick one of Nighthaxan's Lime Cutters in my pocket if I am puttering around the house or the yard, and the whole darn thing is around 5 or 6 inches long. But I live in California, so fixed blades of any length must be completely unconcealed in public and that's a pain. I like to mod knife tips into wharncliffes because that's my own weird thing to do, but you could probably avoid some work if you just got something in a sheepsfoot or sailing blade profile.
 
Hi! I agree with the majority of posters here :). I’d say it depends a lot of where you live and what is considered “urban scenario”. I think there are two main aspects of this well discussed matter to consider: one it’s about the purely legal part (i.e.: what is allowed by legislation to carry and how) and the second one it’s about the customs and traditions of the People and the places (i.e.: “melting in” rather than “sticking out”) :).

An example from my area: in the villages in the mountains here (“urban scenario” as well, taking it literally :D) it’s custom and tradition dwellers carry all types of knives and even a roncola (billhook) hanging from their belts. They normally go to local shops, minimarkets, bakeries, cafes, take local public transportation (buses), etc., openly carrying these items and no one bat an eye. Doing the same in e.g. the financial district of Milano city (another type of “urban scenario” :)) would surely cause them being stopped and searched by LEOs, having their tools confiscated, likely being sued and fined and, in worst cases, this can even send them to jail for possession of “improper weapon” :(. Quite a big difference indeed! In these matters what works for me is an overall awareness of the context I am in; a basic knowledge of legislation/my rights and duties and the respect for specific local customs and traditions of the People and the places. Honestly I can say, so far (knocking on wood :p), I never had problems with my knives carry!

The point of a knife, for me, it’s quite important for my EDC tasks. I like to have pointy enough sharp tools :thumbsup:. Sure, for hiking/camping tasks, I’d prefer a more robust tip, but still a pointy one. Stay safe!
 
Carrying a fixed blade for edc is less common but not weird. For me small fixed blades with 3-3.5 inch blades make great EDC knives.

I find a sharp point very useful for EDC and wouldn't grind a tip off. To me that sounds crazy.

The same goes for a woods knife. A tip is too useful. I would not want to give that up.

How on earth do you keep stabbing yourself?
 
I've been wanting a small fixed blade EDC for awhile now, but I just haven't found anything that appeals to me yet. So I don't consider that weird.
I personally wouldn't grind the tip off of a perfectly good knife. Just remember, the pointy end goes away from you!
I really don't follow survival knife trends so I really can't give you an opinion on that.
 
Nothing more to add to whats been said so far, just want to point out that the reasons people EDC folders have little to do with [folders being] "less expensive" [than fixed blades]. If anythin, folders tend to be more expensive.
 
Seems weird to me to grind a point off; also weird that you keep poking yourself. :eek: Many here consider it weird that people like me have MANY (as in LOTS of) knives we never use. ;) I believe most batoning is weird. ;) My wife thinks my swords (also lots) are weird. :rolleyes: So, be as weird as you like with your own stuff and have fun. :D
 
Hey!!! Wait a second.......what's so weird about having enough knives for 5 or 6 lifetimes???
Seems pretty damn reasonable to me!
Sorry K, hard to resist that one!!
:D
Joe

katanas said:
Seems weird to me to grind a point off; also weird that you keep poking yourself. :eek: Many here consider it weird that people like me have MANY (as in LOTS of) knives we never use. ;) I believe most batoning is weird. ;) My wife thinks my swords (also lots) are weird. :rolleyes: So, be as weird as you like with your own stuff and have fun. :D
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1) yes it's "weird" to edc a fixed blade in an urban environment. I see it every once and a while around Portland but it is by far not the norm.
2) your knife is there for you to use. If the tip does nothing for you then grind it off. It's also not what most people would do so I guess it's "weird" too.
2b) No. It's not the reason for a chisel tip. It's the reason for a sheepsfoot.

To sum up, yeah a little "weird" but so what? Who the hell actually WANTS to be normal? ;)
 
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1) No, but the more urban, the more likely it will be illegal and looked at as a weapon as others have said above. If you keep it at sub 3", even fewer will be threatened. I live in NYC. You can't get more urban then here.

2) I say chop it off and make a chisel tip, you may like it.

2a) The chisel tip is for added strength and scraper tool usage. Its just a newer blade shape so people want to try it out. I am a fan of Sheepsfoot (rounded tip) and Cleaver style blades and I have found more than enough functionality for all EDC tasks. Even piercing! Rotate the blade a bit and you have plenty of tip to puncture or pierce.




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1- No. Not at all. Just make sure you're abiding by all state and local laws, even when traveling and use good sense so you don't scare people for no reason.

2.0- Stop being an idiot and poking yourself with your knives...o_O:D

2a- Yeah... Kind of... But it's your knife and you should do what you want with it. Personally, lack of a usable point on the blade is a deal breaker for me on a knife. Also, the old carbon v cold steels may bring a premium on the secondary market so you may be better off selling it and buying the blade you want, possibly from one of the custom makers here. Then you'd have exactly what you want.

2b- The first ones I personally recall seeing in a chisel point were advertised as being that way for maximum tip strength for prybar usage. Some people envision their future survival needs requiring a lot of difficult prying with their knife. I always thought that was the reason behind that "point" being on a knife.
 
I used to carry fixed blades of varying sizes with some frequency out in public, and this is in an area where it is legal but not at all common. I never heard a single negative remark on the matter over several months - I didn't even get weird looks.

Socially speaking, but dependent on where you are, you're likely already in the "slightly weird" category for having a knife on you in the first place. Your carry preferences are going to be insignificant, though, and nothing is weird about having a preference or use for a blade shape or style.

Chisel-tips are a perfectly reasonable choice if you have a use for them. If you do a decent amount of scraping, hey, there's hardly anything better. For general use, I tend to like the typical V-grinds or scandi grinds, but, really, preference trumps popular opinion every time. If it works for you, it doesn't matter if nobody else does it or understands it.
 
Low_rez said:
1) No, but the more urban, the more likely it will be illegal and looked at as a weapon as others have said above. If you keep it at sub 3", even fewer will be threatened. I live in NYC. You can't get more urban then here.

2) I say chop it off and make a chisel tip, you may like it.

2a) The chisel tip is for added strength and scraper tool usage. Its just a newer blade shape so people want to try it out. I am a fan of Sheepsfoot (rounded tip) and Cleaver style blades and I have found more than enough functionality for all EDC tasks. Even piercing! Rotate the blade a bit and you have plenty of tip to puncture or pierce.

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Which Spiderco is that? It looks like a straight razor. Awesome!

Yeah, I'm re-reading the Canadian criminal code with annotations this time to make sure I'm not doing anything illegal. One reassuring factor is that "intent" is a repeated theme. For me, a knife is no different than carrying a spoon or a fork for my intended use... though it sounds like with the wrong intent, a spoon *could* be a weapon. LOL.

Great info and opinions guys! Now I know about sheep's foot and wharncliffe (yikes! Way too pokey). This old thread was informative too ( https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/what-are-the-advantages-to-a-sheeps-foot-blade.316116/page-2 ). The sailing history for the sheep's foot resonated with me.

I overstated how often I stab myself for comic effect. I'm just an average idiot, not an exceptional one.

Is there a name for the chisel tip blade geometry other than "chisel knife/tanto/reverse tanto?"
 
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