Weird or not?

Bang*Bang** said:
Which Spiderco is that? It looks like a straight razor. Awesome!

Yeah, I'm re-reading the Canadian criminal code with annotations this time to make sure I'm not doing anything illegal. One reassuring factor is that "intent" is a repeated theme. For me, a knife is no different than carrying a spoon or a fork for my intended use... though it sounds like with the wrong intent, a spoon *could* be a weapon. LOL.

Great info and opinions guys! Now I know about sheep's foot and wharncliffe (yikes! Way too pokey). This old thread was informative too ( https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/what-are-the-advantages-to-a-sheeps-foot-blade.316116/page-2 ). The sailing history for the sheep's foot resonated with me.

I overstated how often I stab myself for comic effect. I'm just an average idiot, not an exceptional one.

Is there a name for the chisel tip blade geometry other than "chisel knife/tanto/reverse tanto?"
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The knife is the Spyderco Roc by Serge Pachenko. Love it, but it is not for everyone. He has another knife in a similar style called the Orbit on his site Serge Knives. I couldn't help myself and I ordered one too.

As for your issue of intent and legality, I never went to law school but I know knifeing someone is illegal but spooning someone is is not.

History wise I thought the blade shape was as old as the Vikings with their Seax blades (broken back Seax for example) and then later on in the 1800s it was offically termed Wharncliffe and sheepsfoot.
The Grahm Razel made the chisel tip popular lately with more of a square shape and is referred to as a "razel" like tip.
 
I live in Canada and the knife laws are the same across the country.

Basically they want you to not conceal your knife because a knife can be a weapon. So clip your folder to your pocket and make sure your fixed blades are atleast partly visible. There are no laws against blade lengths or double edged knives in Canada but many officers believe that if your knife is longer than 3.5 inches or so it is illegal. They are wrong though good luck, they will try to use it as an excuse to keep your knife.

At the same time technically you are allowed to completely conceal any knife. This is because concealing any weapon is illegal and since I am carrying this knife as a tool (and not as a weapon or I wouldn't be allowed to carry it at all) there is no problem with me concealing it since only weapons are illegal to conceal. Clear as mud right? These are the laws on the books, they are literally contradictory in many ways. Thus is mostly comes down to how big of a jackass you and the officer are being at the time. If you are a jackass with your knife prepare to get in trouble. If a jackass officer shows up he might try to land you in trouble over a concealed nail clipper. (Ask for his superior and explain the situation if anything)
Intent is a major portion so make sure that it is clear you are carrying the knife as a tool. Intent is what makes the same object a knife which can be carried or a weapon.

Lastly I think you are confusing terms. A chisel tipped knife is one with a tip like the Graham Razel. Many tanto blades (though any blade can be) are chisel ground, which means one side of the knife is flat and the other side bevelled. This is different than a chisel tip which is a squares off tip of the knife. Chisel ground has no relation to a chisel tip. Though confusingly most chisel tip knives are chisel ground.

To see what a sheepsfoot or wharncliffe blade looks like just search those terms in google images.
 
I just bought a cheap folder, ACCUSHARP brand, 2 3/4" blade, It has a blade lock on the side that you pull before you can open the blade, and you pull it again to close the knife, so it should be difficult for it to open in your pocket.
 
"Razel tip." Yup, that's what I'm talking about!

What didn't the Vikings do first? LOL.

OMG, those Serge orbit and Spiderco Roc are beautiful! I love the idea of having a knife that could be a backup straight razor!

Thanks for the clarification, Lapedog. Grind and geometry are separate for sure. It is kind of ironic the two, in this case, are commonly paired.

Low Rez, is the Roc hollow ground on both sides? Is that an edge on the front of the blade?

Anyone know what a Graham Razel knife will go for?
This one looks pretty
http://vault.sfu.ca/index.php/s/r3PMAkLLJk5tNcK
 
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