Welding a finger guard???

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I am working with Aldo's 1084 and still doing stock removal. I have a blade I am working on that I made the finger guard from the same steel. Is it ok to mig weld the finger guard in place before heat treat or am I better to solder the guard after HT and temper?
 
It's generally accepted to be be a bad idea to fusion weld a guard on. The weld zone will have highly enlarged grain, as well as bits of martensite and other unintended microstructures. Another issue is stress locked up in the steel from welding... long story short, the whole joint area will be significantly weakened and prone to cracking.

If you absolutely had to do it this way, you'd want to find a better filler match than er-70-s6 or whatever your spool is running... the best might be to tig weld it using a thin strip of 1084 as filler. Then you'd want to carefully thermal cycle it for grain reduction and stress relief, in a forge or better yet a digital oven.

By the time you get done with that, you'll have a possibly decent yet still fundamentally questionable blade/guard to finish out, with more trouble and time invested than solder or a press fit with epoxy would have cost you.
 
How about something like the Skookum Bushtool that has a flat pommel that has been welded. Thanks


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Low risk weld on the pommel. I'm assuming that it's there for pounding on things, but even doing that it's supported by the tang and the scales. There is little to no radial force being put onto the pommel, only axial, where all the support lies. Contrast that with welding a guard, which is essentially the fulcrum point of a blade in nearly all uses. Great radial forces, where the only support lies in the thickness of the material or height of the ricasso. Everything you typically use a knife for puts stress on that welded area.

This is the second time this has come up in a month. It's not that welding it can't be done, it's that most people aren't going to do it right and will likely end up with something less durable than if they had glued or soldered and pinned; or press fit.
 
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