Went to a bonfire last night.

kniferbro said:
A

Why not give the OP, a member of Bladeforums (with ~3000 posts) the benefit of the doubt? The way the OP described this individual doesn't seem to me to be the little Timmy persona I brought up in my last post. I don't know where you're from, but in Texas, EVERYONE carries a knife. Having a knife in your pocket does not mean you're a knife person at all nor does it mean the blade is carried for "appropriate cutting tasks". The dude was trying to impress a chick by embellishing his Jarbenza. I will continue to laugh at that.

I have no problem warning people of something sharp. But I'm not going to tell them that the (obviously dull) serrations will "bite right in" on merit of simply being serrations. That's just plain incorrect.
Click to expand...
I don't judge a member of Bladeforums based on their post count. A high post count doesn't increase anyone's credibility. Likewise, I don't judge members here, or their credibility, based on their age or how long they have been a member.

As far as giving the OP the benefit of the doubt, nowhere did I call him a liar. I did indeed give him the benefit of the doubt. My original post was based entirely on the information that the OP provided.

The OP didn't post- "Hey everyone, here's a story about a guy I met at a bonfire. I'd like to hear your opinions of his actions.". Instead , what the OP said is "Figured you guys might want a laugh.". Looks to me like he was offering the guy up as a public joke to be ridiculed.

As for the knife in question, neither we nor the OP handled it. So we don't know what exactly it was or how sharp it was.

As far as the guy trying to impress a chick, SHE asked to see the knife, SHE asked why it didn't click, and he responded by explaining the modification he made to cause the knife to open easier, then he demonstrated how the knife opens. I don't see anything wrong with any of that. If the guy was going up to random people saying "Hey, you want to see how fast I can flick my knife out?", and then proceeded to flick his knife out in front of them, then that is behavior I would criticize. But based on the details provided by the OP, it appears that the guy was just responding to the girls curious inquiries.

If you choose to judge people based on their post count, or condemn other knife owners whom you have never met, that's entirely up to you. I choose not to do either of those things.
 
Last edited:
killgar said:
I don't judge a member of Bladeforums based on their post count. A high post count doesn't increase anyone's credibility. Likewise, I don't judge members here based on their age or how long they have been a member.

As far as giving the OP the benefit of the doubt, nowhere did I call him a liar. I did indeed give him the benefit of the doubt. My original post was based entirely on the information that the OP provided.

The OP didn't post- "Hey everyone, here's a story about a guy I met at a bonfire. I'd like to hear your opinions of his actions.". Instead , what the OP said is "Figured you guys might want a laugh.". Looks to me like he was offering the guy up as a public joke to be ridiculed.

As for the knife in question, neither we nor the OP handled it. So we don't know what exactly it was or how sharp it was.

As far as the guy trying to impress a chick, SHE asked to see the knife, SHE asked why it didn't click, and he responded by explaining the modification he made to cause the knife to open easier, then he demonstrated how the knife opens. I don't see anything wrong with any of that. If the guy was going up to random people saying "Hey, you want to see how fast I can flick my knife out?", and then proceeded to flick his knife out in front of them, then that is behavior I would criticize. But based on the details provided by the OP, it appears that the guy was just responding to the girls curious inquiries.

If you choose to judge people based on their post count, or judge other knife owners whom you have never met, that's entirely up to you. I choose not to do either of those things.
Click to expand...

Post count was a simple variable to establish credibility, the first I could think of. I don't care about post counts, I've been here 5 years and have half the posts of most that have been here half as long. But if I have to establish some inkling of the truth, I will surely choose the person who actively participates in a community of which I am a part of, over a randy off the street.

You're getting into semantics which is a never ending battle. Sure she asked him but come on, he was showing off...

Anyways, agree to disagree sir :)
 
kniferbro said:
A

Why not give the OP, a member of Bladeforums (with ~3000 posts) the benefit of the doubt? The way the OP described this individual doesn't seem to me to be the little Timmy persona I brought up in my last post. I don't know where you're from, but in Texas, EVERYONE carries a knife. Having a knife in your pocket does not mean you're a knife person at all nor does it mean the blade is carried for "appropriate cutting tasks". The dude was trying to impress a chick by embellishing his Jarbenza. I will continue to laugh at that.

I have no problem warning people of something sharp. But I'm not going to tell them that the (obviously dull) serrations will "bite right in" on merit of simply being serrations. That's just plain incorrect.
Click to expand...

I live in Texas and will tell you that this is completely untrue. I carry a knife, obviously, but I rarely EVER seen other people carrying knives in public. Usually the only ones I see are those who have jobs that require the them, like produce people at the grocery store or maintenence workers. I don't doubt that carry is much more common in rural areas, but in DFW at least it is quite rare in my observations.
 
John_0917 said:
I live in Texas and will tell you that this is completely untrue. I carry a knife, obviously, but I rarely EVER seen other people carrying knives in public. Usually the only ones I see are those who have jobs that require the them, like produce people at the grocery store or maintenence workers. I don't doubt that carry is much more common in rural areas, but in DFW at least it is quite rare in my observations.
Click to expand...

"Completely untrue" ??? I can agree that certain areas differ, but completely untrue??? I don't want muck up the thread anymore than I have so I'll cede to you...

Edit: Perhaps I did do a little embellishing of my own. "Everyone" was a strong choice of words. But I have seen 3 pocket clips just today, and I live in Austin.
 
The story was funny. Especially since I've seen this crap in person. Both people who can't seem to light gasoline on fire to save their life and a guy who wrist flicked a knife into his leg. I can laugh at it because I know the type.

Also, a guy I don't know is telling a story of another guy I don't know. Why would I get bent out of shape about it and care about this wrist flickers poor feelings? I don't know the guy. Meh. I'll choose not to take it so seriously. :D
 
kniferbro said:
Post count was a simple variable to establish credibility, the first I could think of. I don't care about post counts, I've been here 5 years and have half the posts of most that have been here half as long. But if I have to establish some inkling of the truth, I will surely choose the person who actively participates in a community of which I am a part of, over a randy off the street.

You're getting into semantics which is a never ending battle. Sure she asked him but come on, he was showing off...
Click to expand...
I was a teenager once, a long, long time ago, but I can still remember what it's like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the guy was, in part, showing off to the girl. But I'm not too quick to condemn a teenager for trying to impress a girl who expresses an interest in knives, by flicking his knife open.

Anyways, agree to disagree sir :)
Click to expand...
Like I always say, "Men of respect can respectfully disagree". And although we may disagree, you have my respect. Good talking with you, it's all just casual conversation on the internet :).
 
killgar said:
Like I always say, "Men of respect can respectfully disagree". And although we may disagree, you have my respect. Good talking with you, it's all just casual conversation on the internet :).
Click to expand...

Well shoot now I feel like I should buy you a beer :). Nice bantering with you.
 
I got the girl never asked about his knife which could not prompt the "you paid how much?!" Response from the dude that would have incited the girl finding her new boyfriend.
 
Y'all have really offended me about my wrist flick and the quality of my knife. It gets the job done for me, and it cost me ten bucks. Yeah, you've got that expensive knife, but I've got the girlfriend. I'd say I win.
 
I find it funny that the people in this thread who appear to be the biggest snobs are the ones ragging on the OP about being a snob. :D
 
I might be overly cautious but if I put a good sharpening on a knife and then strop it, Iiterally am I fear of other people using it at times as not everyone including my wife follow proper knife etiquette. She will sometimes do something to get me all worked up about how she handles knives.
 
kniferbro said:
Why does everyone assume the guy is just good hearted little Timmy from down the way that just wants to carry a useful tool to be prepared but can't afford anything better?

Sounds more like he carries it to arm-fling it out to impress chicks and flash when he's trying to be tough.

Good story OP. I would have let out a scoff at the "if they catch your finger, they'll bite right in" line.
Click to expand...
That's exactly what it was.
No knife snobbery here. I don't care what he was carrying, but he was being a macho cocky tough guy about it.
Nothing is embellished. That's exactly how it happened.
 
stabman said:
I find it funny that the people in this thread who appear to be the biggest snobs are the ones ragging on the OP about being a snob. :D
Click to expand...
I know.
My thread was just to generate a chuckle or two, and now I got people wanting pictures and the dudes signature for authenticity.
Hey, like I said. Cheers to the guy for carrying a knife, but it was nothing to do with utility. He was just trying to look all cool in front of his buddies.
 
killgar said:
Here's how I read the story-

A young man who sees the value of carrying a knife took out that knife to perform an appropriate cutting task.

The knife is an inexpensive one, but perhaps there is good reason for that. Perhaps he can't afford an expensive knife like a sebenza. Or perhaps his inexpensive knife serves his purposes just fine. Many people are well-served by inexpensive knives.

There is no mention of the young man doing anything dangerous or irresponsible with his knife.

As far as the detent, it's not unheard of for members of this forum to want to weaken a really stiff detent to produce an easier opening.

As far as flicking his knife open really hard, I'm sure there are several members on this forum who do that.

In short, what I see in your story is a young man who values the usefulness of a knife, modified it to his liking, and one who used his knife responsibly.

No offense, but your post sounds a bit like knife-snobbery. Like because he had some no-name knife with plastic handles, instead of a sebenza like you, that he is some kind of joke that deserves to be laughed at.

So he carries a cheap knife, doesn't always pronounce knife terminology properly, prefers a knife that flicks open easy, and likes to flick his knife open hard. That description might very well describe several members of Bladeforums, in part, or in whole.

I don't see anything to laugh at. In fact, I think it's a shame when knife enthusiasts look for reasons to tear each other down. Knife enthusiasts get enough criticism and judgement from non-knife people without doing it to each other. I don't see any reason to criticize the guy, make fun of him, or laugh at him. Instead, I think the guy should be praised for carrying a knife and using it responsibly.
Click to expand...
Not quite. I could tell by his attitude that he had no interest in learning about better knives.
He was the kind of guy that would have tried to cut a rock or flick-slam my Sebenza if he were to have handled it.
 
I enjoyed the story, this happens every summer with my friends as the whip out the combo edges that are painfully dull and tote there awesomeness to all.

The full arm flick cracked me up

I find its better just to keep my mouth shut and enjoy the show.

I don't want to be a "know it all"

if it works for them, who am I to judge?

Of course sometimes, it's like nails on a chalkboard and I have to politely intervene.

Last week at a sports goods store, a gentleman was using a chefs choice electronic pull though sharpener for his cheapo Gerber paraframe combo edge.

"Bzzzzzzzzeeeeett"


I couldn't let him do it.

It was like watching someone walk in front of a bus.

Dammit, I had to do something.

So I politely approached him and showed him how to use the diamond stones on display close by.

It's a careful dance in conversation to avoid a condescending tone when helping a stranger sharpen a knife. He was appreciative and was able to cut paper afterwards.

I guess I wish someone would have been kind enough to do the same for me when I was learning.

Yet, helping people in the realm of knives can be like navigating a mine field, small nuances in body language and small inflections or tone changes in voice can send an unintended message of snobbery and egotistical snideness.

Most of the time it's better that someone learns on there own or never learns.

Being a sebenza owner doent make someone a snob.

Chill out people.
 
Last edited:
DeadboxHero said:
Last week at a sports goods store, a gentleman was using a chefs choice electronic pull though sharpener for his cheapo Gerber paraframe combo edge.

"Bzzzzzzzzeeeeett"


I couldn't let him do it.
Click to expand...

I could. ;)
The Paraframe is the only knife that I got for free that I felt I overpaid for. :D

Nothing wrong with an inexpensive knife, but the Paraframe tops my list of worst knives I have had.
The Gerber Gator, on the other hand, worked out really well for me, and then worked very well for a friend I gave it to...till he lost it.

Sonnydaze said:
Yeah, I heard the story...BUT...BUT...he got the GIRL.
Click to expand...

Did he?
All I read was that he sat next to a girl...big difference.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top