Western L39 Pat’d

What is the date of this knife?

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I collect a few westerns and I came across this one... L39 with this on the tang:
Western
Bolder Colo
Pat’d made in USA

my questions are these: when did western first start production of the 39 design and when was this stamp used?
I know they used
pat appl’d for
pat pend
Pat’d
Pat #######
When were the approximate dates of these patent marks?
Was pat’d used before or after pat #######?
Here are some photos:


Thanks for any info pertaining to any questions!
 
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The 39 pattern first shows up in the 1941 catalog. It MIGHT have come out in 1940 or even 1939, but I have not run across any advertisements for the pattern for either of those years.

On when a particular reference stamp was first used, there is fog as to when the shift from APPL'D FOR became PENDING/PEND - I have never seen anythiing in writing documenting when either stamp was last/first used.

PAT APPL'D FOR - 1931 to late 1932 or early 1933

PAT PEND or PAT PENDING - late 1932 or early 1933 to 1934

PATENTED - 1934

PAT. 1,967,479 - 1934

PAT'D - 1943 (on the G46-8) -- The most common place this stamp was used. I cannot remember seeing on something else, but anything os possible. All other WW2 knives, except the 2 that did not use the bifurcated tang have had PAT. 1,967,479. The 2 knives made without the bifurcated tang were the Bx54 Bushman and the Life Raft knife.

PAT. MADE IN USA - 1946 to 1953

Reference to the patent was dropped around 1953. Model Numbers were added in 1954 or 1955, depending on when a new run was made for a particular model. These model numbers were stamped into the PILE SIDE ricasso.

There were a very few knives with both a reference to the patent AND a model number on the pile side. I have come to believe (no proof) that these knives were made in 1954 using patent stamped blanks that were left over from a previous run and then stamped with the model number prior to assembly and sale.
 
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Patent 1,967,479
Applied for and Filed Dec.15 1931
Pat.# assigned July 24, 1934
You can do a search on line for the Patent number and down load a copy of the patent complete with drawings.
I agree that there are unfortunately many holes regarding documentation and even just catalog information.
There are no representations of any 39 pattern knives in the 1936 catalog or earlier. I can only assume the earliest versions of the L39 would have been made after the patent had been awarded.
 
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Need clear pics of stamps and knife overall to provide any info beyond the L66 is pre-1954.
 
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