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Okay, I've taken squirrel, mouse, rat, bunny and annoyance birds with everything from steel BB shot, lead rounds, various pellets.
1: there's no most speed airguns are shooting- not these days.
I have a 1377 in my drawer here that's mostly stock (I've tuned the trigger and added set screws for the valve) that pulls in the midd 500s with regular crosman premier 7.9 grain ammo. Deadly to a bird, deadly to a rat, deadly to a squirrel if you hit it right. No sense messing around with this or that special ammo.
I have a fully tuned quest 1000 that pulls 876fps average with gamo hunters (what we chronyd with) at 8.2 grains. I shoot crosman heavies in it, probably about 770-800 fps with the 10+ grain pells. deadly to anything I can hit with iron sights. No sense messing with special ammo, though I suppose at long ranges it could matter for penetrating squirrel skull- which we all know is tungsten armor plate.
I have a crosman 101 from 1926 that shoots a reliable 560 fps with .22 crow magnums and about 600 with standard Crsoman premiers. not high end ammo. but I can pop shotgun shells with it day in, day out, at 20 yards. It will reliably kill anything I hit, from jacks down.
2: Part of the point to shooting airguns is economy. If I'm spending more on pellets than I am on Winchester Xpert bulk .22lr, what's the point?
I've tried a bunch of stuff- pellet guns can be picky about ammo. Gamo wadcutters, gamo hunters, CPs, and crow magnums all work great, in most anything I've shot. The strange exceptions have mostly been traded off because I don't like 10 cents a shot to be accurate.
Crow magnums are the one exception where I want the punch in a high powered .177 for larger critters (but the truth is, I end up shooting a .22 pellet gun then)- in .22 I'm still on my second box of Crow Magnums and they SURE DO expand, but I haven't really needed them. If I do more turkey or jacks I might use them more.
3: I won't knock anyone's need to spend the money, there are some very nice high quality ammo selections out there, but I don't get fliers with anything I've tried except daisy soft lead cheapies.
I will note that the difference between FT and most real world hunting is such that the extra .25 inch group size in regular hunting ranges isn't worth it.
wadcutters and round nose will hit hardest of regular ammo types. anything else is either a gimmick or expensive science for a few percentage points of performance. Except those crow magnums. I don't know how those things expand the way they do.
I guess I should add that for me, I mostly don't push the limits past 40 yards or so.
1: there's no most speed airguns are shooting- not these days.
I have a 1377 in my drawer here that's mostly stock (I've tuned the trigger and added set screws for the valve) that pulls in the midd 500s with regular crosman premier 7.9 grain ammo. Deadly to a bird, deadly to a rat, deadly to a squirrel if you hit it right. No sense messing around with this or that special ammo.
I have a fully tuned quest 1000 that pulls 876fps average with gamo hunters (what we chronyd with) at 8.2 grains. I shoot crosman heavies in it, probably about 770-800 fps with the 10+ grain pells. deadly to anything I can hit with iron sights. No sense messing with special ammo, though I suppose at long ranges it could matter for penetrating squirrel skull- which we all know is tungsten armor plate.
I have a crosman 101 from 1926 that shoots a reliable 560 fps with .22 crow magnums and about 600 with standard Crsoman premiers. not high end ammo. but I can pop shotgun shells with it day in, day out, at 20 yards. It will reliably kill anything I hit, from jacks down.
2: Part of the point to shooting airguns is economy. If I'm spending more on pellets than I am on Winchester Xpert bulk .22lr, what's the point?
I've tried a bunch of stuff- pellet guns can be picky about ammo. Gamo wadcutters, gamo hunters, CPs, and crow magnums all work great, in most anything I've shot. The strange exceptions have mostly been traded off because I don't like 10 cents a shot to be accurate.
Crow magnums are the one exception where I want the punch in a high powered .177 for larger critters (but the truth is, I end up shooting a .22 pellet gun then)- in .22 I'm still on my second box of Crow Magnums and they SURE DO expand, but I haven't really needed them. If I do more turkey or jacks I might use them more.
3: I won't knock anyone's need to spend the money, there are some very nice high quality ammo selections out there, but I don't get fliers with anything I've tried except daisy soft lead cheapies.
I will note that the difference between FT and most real world hunting is such that the extra .25 inch group size in regular hunting ranges isn't worth it.
wadcutters and round nose will hit hardest of regular ammo types. anything else is either a gimmick or expensive science for a few percentage points of performance. Except those crow magnums. I don't know how those things expand the way they do.
I guess I should add that for me, I mostly don't push the limits past 40 yards or so.
