Wow, all I can say is that karambits are one of the most misunderstood designs.....go even further, the hidden capabilities of the SS Spyderco design is sadly overlooked. Please seek out quality instruction and then make an informed decision. I have grown accustom to the fact that most are missing the mark of the design. Doc Hannibal and bk6....:thumbup:
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What about karambits?
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i was excited when k'bits 1st came out, got a tarani master model, didnt like it at all, it was very stiff to open, & the big ring poking up outta your pocket when ya carry it just turned me off. the only pro to it imho was it was so easy to sell lol. i just did not like the thing. i might would prefer a EKI or a spyderco k'bit, the ring isnt so big and the EKI is waved so opening woulnt be an issue, but i think i'll just stick with my std old emerson CQC13/CQC12/spyderco Ti ATR vs the k'bit.
if ya are trained with a k'bit i suppose they would be fine, if ya are trained with another style of knife/untrained imho they offer no advantages that i see.
mostly imho the tarani just looks so "funky" lol., i just cant handle it
if ya are trained with a k'bit i suppose they would be fine, if ya are trained with another style of knife/untrained imho they offer no advantages that i see.
mostly imho the tarani just looks so "funky" lol., i just cant handle it
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I also reviewed Janich's article on the Karambit in Tactical Knives Sept. 2005. He gave it a solid review and some good recommendations. However, #5 is also recommended. There are several good training DVD's as well for those with limited time and or resources. This is a very covert knife. It's easy to carry and fast in diployment.
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Now your talking!
"greg.es"
It has crossed my mind that perhaps the very wide "finger-hole" found on the frame of the Spyderco Karambit was to accomodate the use of "slash-proof" gloves. Either that or maybe, it could have been designed for one very huge "gorilla" active in the Close Protection role.
The Karambit works in tandem with the knowledge of martialarts grappling techniques.
Hence it is a specialized form of knife.
It's short blade becomes a fearsome weapon through it's sheer application of multiple slashings applied at lighting speed.
Not a pretty sight.
So, even though the Karambit may seem like "the best design" for SD, it's not tailormade for the ordinary Joe simply because it hasn't got "blade reach"; and its temperamental curved short blade design wouldn't help to serve the less prepared victim. Well, that is not unless he is prepared to spring into bloody action first, by which actions would paint the uninitiated karambit wielder as the attacker instead. Not a smart move.
It has crossed my mind that perhaps the very wide "finger-hole" found on the frame of the Spyderco Karambit was to accomodate the use of "slash-proof" gloves. Either that or maybe, it could have been designed for one very huge "gorilla" active in the Close Protection role.
The Karambit works in tandem with the knowledge of martialarts grappling techniques.
Hence it is a specialized form of knife.
It's short blade becomes a fearsome weapon through it's sheer application of multiple slashings applied at lighting speed.
Not a pretty sight.
So, even though the Karambit may seem like "the best design" for SD, it's not tailormade for the ordinary Joe simply because it hasn't got "blade reach"; and its temperamental curved short blade design wouldn't help to serve the less prepared victim. Well, that is not unless he is prepared to spring into bloody action first, by which actions would paint the uninitiated karambit wielder as the attacker instead. Not a smart move.
Honestly, if one thinks about it what is a Spyderco Karambit? It's a Civilian with a shorter blade, no serrations, framelock, and a ring on the handle. Now, I'll admit that simplifies it too much but the same principles are there. The Civilian was designed for users with little or no training, correct? Wouldn't it follow that a shorter bladed Civilian with a ring for greater retention would be even better?
The karambit has my vote.
The karambit has my vote.
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ummmm, no.
the civilian was designed to be used by someone with no training. the karambit is a centuries old design, and like other weapons, takes quite a bit of training to be used efficiently and safely. it can still be used for utility purposes, but i'd sooner give the average joe a civilian for SD; in the hands of a guro or pentjakar, the karambit is deadly.
The main thing to remember is why weapons evolved from unarmed to armed.
The basic principal being to ward off the adversary from a safe distance and at the same time trying very hard not to get physically hurt in the process.
A trained unarmed combat fighter has muscle memory and speed gained through experience.
When given any weapon it becomes an extension of one's martial technique.
The moves become deadlier when cold steel in put into the picture.
And using a Karambit with it's talon like blade is akin to clawing away at the target until the inevitable happens. Averting an unexpected surprise knife attack is near impossible, and this is why there is practically no way one is going to walk away with no cuts 'n bruises. Well, not unless you can react faster than a rabid attacker.
In short, using any sort of knife as a form of self protection tool against another who is similarly armed is not a particularly a good way to diffuse any confrontation. Everheard of talk softly but carry a big stick?
The basic principal being to ward off the adversary from a safe distance and at the same time trying very hard not to get physically hurt in the process.
A trained unarmed combat fighter has muscle memory and speed gained through experience.
When given any weapon it becomes an extension of one's martial technique.
The moves become deadlier when cold steel in put into the picture.
And using a Karambit with it's talon like blade is akin to clawing away at the target until the inevitable happens. Averting an unexpected surprise knife attack is near impossible, and this is why there is practically no way one is going to walk away with no cuts 'n bruises. Well, not unless you can react faster than a rabid attacker.
In short, using any sort of knife as a form of self protection tool against another who is similarly armed is not a particularly a good way to diffuse any confrontation. Everheard of talk softly but carry a big stick?