One of my favorite things about my small sebenza is that I never have to adjust a pivot screw on the knife. All of my other knives either need locktite or occasional adjusting of the pivot screw after a while to get rid of the slight blade play. The sebenza just never has that issue. Any other knifes like this? Are there cheaper knives that have this feature?
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What are the closest competitors to the Sebenza when it comes to solid lock up?
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LOL, what Jim said. Any ZT I own or owned, any Spyderco OR BYRD, any $25 Kershaw... I'm sure there are unique and distinguishing features to the Sebenza - although I didn't notice them while I owned one - but a solid and enduring lockup is a tad more common than the OP's experience has led him to believe.
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I've had/I have $425 custom knives that don't lock up solid and I have a lot of $125 to $200 production knives that I can't budge without undue force.
I just took possession of a Spyderco Native 5 and a Dialex Junior yesterday that don't budge regardless of the direction I apply pressure to. I got both for less than a Sebenza. About $110 less to be exact.
But my Umnumzaan is rock solid and my SMF CC is rock solid too.
I think its possible to get a bad one from anyone but as Ankerson said, any proven, high quality knife today is probably going to be solid.
Also, my personal experience is that I have had MUCH better results in that area with production and mid-tech knives than I have with customs
I just took possession of a Spyderco Native 5 and a Dialex Junior yesterday that don't budge regardless of the direction I apply pressure to. I got both for less than a Sebenza. About $110 less to be exact.
But my Umnumzaan is rock solid and my SMF CC is rock solid too.
I think its possible to get a bad one from anyone but as Ankerson said, any proven, high quality knife today is probably going to be solid.
Also, my personal experience is that I have had MUCH better results in that area with production and mid-tech knives than I have with customs
The question is not actually clear to me.
Are you talking about the lock, or about Sebensa's pivot? These are two different animals.
Pivot design in Sebensa is sort of exceptional compared to most of the folders. As far as I know... So it would be, let's say, difficult to compete with.
As for the lock - I personally believe AXIS is just superior to a framelock, whatever the knife. Ambidextrous, self-adjusting, long-living, more reliable. And seems even more affordable.
Are you talking about the lock, or about Sebensa's pivot? These are two different animals.
Pivot design in Sebensa is sort of exceptional compared to most of the folders. As far as I know... So it would be, let's say, difficult to compete with.
As for the lock - I personally believe AXIS is just superior to a framelock, whatever the knife. Ambidextrous, self-adjusting, long-living, more reliable. And seems even more affordable.
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The question is not actually clear to me.
Are you talking about the lock, or about Sebensa's pivot? These are two different animals.
Pivot design in Sebensa is sort of exceptional compared to most of the folders. As far as I know... So it would be, let's say, difficult to compete with.
As for the lock - I personally believe AXIS is just superior to a framelock, whatever the knife. Ambidextrous, self-adjusting, long-living, more reliable. And seems even more affordable.
There's no way a lock that relies on omega springs is more reliable than a frame/liner lock.
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In what way more reliable? AXIS is certainly more reliable for not giving you a blade play and not closing on your fingers while your are fooling around...
And frame/liner locks are so difficult to get right - check on latest threads about Stryder and HEST forlder...
Axis - they get it right every time. Isn't that a sign of good engineering?
And I do not see how replacing broken omega spring more difficult than sending back a folder for having your bladeplay or faulty lock fixed. And you can still use a knife with one spring while wayting - isn't it nice?
But that is just my personal opinion. I have not had an omega spring breaking on me yet.
You are welcome to share yours.
And yes, I have a few knives with frame lock!
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The question is not actually clear to me.
Are you talking about the lock, or about Sebensa's pivot? These are two different animals.
Pivot design in Sebensa is sort of exceptional compared to most of the folders. As far as I know... So it would be, let's say, difficult to compete with.
As for the lock - I personally believe AXIS is just superior to a framelock, whatever the knife. Ambidextrous, self-adjusting, long-living, more reliable. And seems even more affordable.
Yeah, I think I was talking about the pivot. More specifically, the lack of having to ever adjust a pivot screw.
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Well, then as I said, it is difficult to find something on par. I do not know how exactly it is called in English, but Sebensa does have very high precision spacer on pivot, which makes pivot screw adjustment redundant. I guess some other folders are likely to have similar system, but that would be most likely high end knives only. And certainly quite expensive knives because of the high precision required.
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In what way more reliable? AXIS is certainly more reliable for not giving you a blade play and not closing on your fingers while your are fooling around...
And frame/liner locks are so difficult to get right - check on latest threads about Stryder and HEST forlder...
Axis - they get it right every time. Isn't that a sign of good engineering?
And I do not see how replacing broken omega spring more difficult than sending back a folder for having your bladeplay or faulty lock fixed. And you can still use a knife with one spring while wayting - isn't it nice?
But that is just my personal opinion. I have not had an omega spring breaking on me yet.
You are welcome to share yours.
And yes, I have a few knives with frame lock!
The axis lock is a more complex mechanism with more moving parts. Therefore less reliable than a framelock. The rest is self explanatory.
ive never had any knife be as solid as any of my sebenzas have been. no spyderco,zt,benchmade,hinderer,kershaw,jim burke......maybe im just unlucky idk honestly. but NOTHING has been as solid as my crk's. wish i could say it wasnt true. again this is just MY experience.
As I have explained in the post you have quoted, under reliability I meant first of all that you could relay on it not to have bladeplay and not to fail catastrophically, closing on your fingers. The AXIS lock has indeed more parts, but it does not require such a precision in manufacture, so delivers more consistently knife after knife after knife... And I do not think that is compromised in any way by number of parts. At least I can not see how.
By the way, some manufacturers add a few extra parts to their framelocks and to linerlocks to improve their reliability - locking liners and lockbars in locked position. Like LAWKS CRKT uses on some folders... so much for number of parts.
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