what can we learn from ultrarunners?

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I've been dabbling with ultra running the last couple of years and I think there are some important lessons that can be learned for anyone who ventures into the wild. There are obvious advantages in the ability to cover long distances through the wild, this held true 10,000 years ago and has the potential to still hold true today- there are still many indigenous folk that run long distances daily. Ultrarunning forces you to travel light, when running 20, 30, 40 miles you don't want unnecessary weight, but at the same time you're well aware that something could happen and it forces one to put together a kit that if push comes to shove, you have the ability to survive.

Running long distances gives you a very straight forward crash course on nutrition. You learn that you have ~ 2-2.5 hour typically of glycogen reserves, when these run out and you haven't been consuming calories along, bad things happen :) You also learn quickly that carbs are the choice for refueling on the move. When efforts go beyond 3-4 hours, you need to include some protein with those carbs or your body will use what protein it needs- and it does need them. If not consumed the body consumes them anyways, from protein rich muscle mass- not where you want your body shopping for protein! As efforts get even longer, a small percentage of fat needs to be added as well. Understanding and experiencing these phenomenon goes a long way in preparing oneself if the need ever arose where you needed to skedaddle somewhere in a hurry! Because ultrarunners are always trying to trim their load, they've perfected these nutritional needs into small, light packages (but not always tasty :D). I looked in my basement pantry sometime ago and discovered I didn't need to worry about storing extra food stuffs for emergencies- I easily had a weeks + worth of calorie rich food that was also compact and easy to pack, nothing I'd serve on a menu mind you, but would get a guy by just fine in a pinch.

You also get to learn (often by hard knocks) the importance of proper hydration, by experiencing both too little and too much. You also learn what an electrolyte is and why you want them in proper balance :) One interesting physiological change that occurs with long distance runners is that there bodies become much more efficient in regards to hydration and their body ends up needing less water than previously- this obviously could have some advantages in a survival scenario.

Understanding fueling and hydration could certainly effect the outcome of an emergency in the wilds.

Long distance runners typically are out in the hills (or deserts or mountains or other ecosystem) almost daily. This gives one advantages in navigating, route finding and how to best circumvent challenging terrain. All skills that are germane for anyone venturing out. After weeks and months, you also get very good at predicting weather changes that are coming. Being out almost everyday also lets your body better adjust to temperature/weather swings; it also teaches you that preparedness is not only a good idea, but a necessity. Believe me there is nothing more humbling than being half way into a long loop w/ bluebird weather in the upper 30's and having the weather change to a full-out blizzard w/ temps dropping into the low 20's (w/ the winds gusting to 40 mph!)- that's not the time to have forgotten your shell, hat and gloves!

I haven't touched on the health benefits as that should be pretty obvious. Less obvious are other things like balance- dodging obstacles at speed, running downhill, etc all do wonders for balance. This constantly changing terrain also does wonderful things for strengthening smaller accessory muscle groups, tendons and ligaments. I've twisted my ankles numerous times and at first it was an injury that waylaid my running for several days, those same twists now are nothing more than a reminder to pay more attention.

As anyone who has dabbled into survival you learn what an important role your mental state is, maybe the most important x factor??? The ability to push through pain and mental roadblocks is often the difference between making it and going to your maker. I can tell you with certainty that anyone who is regularly running long distances (competitive or otherwise) has overcome some major mental obstacles. Some that border on superhuman! This mental toughness is no doubt a very real advantage if one were to find themselves in a jam.

Folks moving light and quick through the wilds is nothing new, it goes back eons. Even in our not so distant past, the mountain men of the 1800's understood the importance of putting distance (quickly and efficiently) between themselves and say a band of angry Blackfeet :D

I'm certainly not advocating everyone needs to start on a ultrarunning regime, but I think there are a few lessons that can be gleaned from paying attention to them.
 
I am reminded of Yvon Chouinard's old adage, often used in the context of describing an "Alpine" approach to mountaineering or climbing...
Speed is safety.

Ultra runners and speed hikers take this to it's logical (or nutsoid, depending on how you see it) end.

Regarding food and calories, it's something confronted by transcontinental cyclists and long-distance thru-hikers as well. Food is fuel.

Regarding health issues... I'm north of 50 now and nursing knee, foot and back injuries, many of them traceable to long distance bike touring, backpacking and ski touring. Sort of a balancing act between being active and fit and doing the things you love over and against wearing down parts of your body that don't grow back (like cartilage or disc fluid) or simply deform (like feet).

Lots of ways to travel safely and funnly in the backcountry.
 
I have no interest in ultra running just like I have no interest in the 25 mile a day target that ULers have. There's just nothing that I personally would gain from it. That said I always look to these people to see what works and what doesn't. Just because I'm hiking a meager 5 miles doesn't mean that I don't want to do it as light and as efficiently as possible. It's always good to have an open mind. And I always look forward to your posts. :D
 
I would love the physical endurance you have don't get me wrong but I like to carry big knives when out so I might look like some berserker coming over the mountain top if I was to try this:D

In all honesty i'm amazed at some of the youtube videos i've watched. It just seems being able to travel as far and relatively fast on foot as you do has to be a great feeling of self reliance.
 
Great write up Bro, I enjoyed it. You guys are a crazy bunch!!!!!!! but theres definatly alot of great info and tips to be shared.
 
"...it forces one to put together a kit that if push comes to shove, you have the ability to survive."...

What does an ultra-runner carry?
 
Lots of ways to travel safely and funnly in the backcountry.

clearly- all of it good as far as I am concerned

I have no interest in ultra running just like I have no interest in the 25 mile a day target that ULers have. There's just nothing that I personally would gain from it. That said I always look to these people to see what works and what doesn't. Just because I'm hiking a meager 5 miles doesn't mean that I don't want to do it as light and as efficiently as possible. It's always good to have an open mind. And I always look forward to your posts. :D

exactly- I don't have any intentions of crossing the full length of Alaska, but learned a ton from Andy Skurkas adventure doing so :)

I would love the physical endurance you have don't get me wrong but I like to carry big knives when out so I might look like some berserker coming over the mountain top if I was to try this:D

In all honesty i'm amazed at some of the youtube videos i've watched. It just seems being able to travel as far and relatively fast on foot as you do has to be a great feeling of self reliance.

I've contemplated entering an event- running in my kilt with a big knife carried baldric style :D

Great write up Bro, I enjoyed it. You guys are a crazy bunch!!!!!!! but theres definatly alot of great info and tips to be shared.

indeed- on both counts! :)

"...it forces one to put together a kit that if push comes to shove, you have the ability to survive."...

What does an ultra-runner carry?

can't speak for all runners, but I carry in addition to food and water, a few extra pieces of clothing, a AMK heatsheet, small fire kit, small fak, small knife, whistle and headlamp- if I'm in unfamiliar country a compass and map
 
I've seen a documentary recently about early human evolution, and how our bodies are basically designed for long-distance running across open ground. Sorry, I don't recall the name of the show.

I think there's an interesting aspect in "survival" hype that's incorrect or at least overlooked: Many (most?) people in true "survival" situations don't need to bunker down, build shelters, hunt for food... They need to get the hell out of that situation. That's done by moving, moving in an appropriate direction and doing it quickly, safely, and efficiently. In this way ultra runners and other physically fit athletes are more capable of living through a true emergency survival situation than most other folks.
 
I've seen a documentary recently about early human evolution, and how our bodies are basically designed for long-distance running across open ground. Sorry, I don't recall the name of the show.

I think there's an interesting aspect in "survival" hype that's incorrect or at least overlooked: Many (most?) people in true "survival" situations don't need to bunker down, build shelters, hunt for food... They need to get the hell out of that situation. That's done by moving, moving in an appropriate direction and doing it quickly, safely, and efficiently. In this way ultra runners and other physically fit athletes are more capable of living through a true emergency survival situation than most other folks.

Our ancestors practiced persistence hunting
Running on two legs gave us a leg up on the competition and allowed us to run faster four-legged animals to exhaustion, because two legs gave us more efficient thermoregulation and respiration.

I have massive respect for ultrarunners.

yuppers :) when I read Born to Run they went into great depth about the hypothesis of why Neanderthal were eventually replaced by Hominids, it was interesting that Neanderthals appeared to be superior in many respects- larger brain, stronger, etc, but they eventually disappeared and obviously Hominids didn't. the theory is that it was at least part in that Homids were built more efficiently to run longer distances - very interesting read to say the least :D

there are still tribes that still practice persistence hunting, quite amazing to say the least!
 
I've contemplated entering an event- running in my kilt with a big knife carried baldric style :D
Yes please...and post a video. Not of you but of the reaction from the crowd. :D
but they eventually disappeared and obviously Hominids didn't.

Recent DNA sequencing has found Neanderthal DNA in modern humans. So, they're still around in a way. ;)
 
Born to Run by Christoffer McDougall is a worthwhile read and do post pics of your running getup.
 
I'm just the opposite. I like to stalk hunt with a traditional bow, so travel slow and quiet. I find that you have to lead the ultrarunners a little more to have a successful hunt.. :)
 
I've started running trail to get in shape again.
Not more than an hour so far at one time but every day.

So far it is quite a fun.
 
^ good deal :) I think you'll find in addition to the aerobic benefits, that trail running will improve your balance, strengthen your core and make you less prone to injuries by strengthening all of the accessory muscle/ligament that go into dodging obstacle, clearing windfalls, etc

what I like the most are the benefits beyond fitness, being outdoors, exerting yourself is very beneficial to one's mental state :D
 
"...it forces one to put together a kit that if push comes to shove, you have the ability to survive."...

What does an ultra-runner carry?

It varies race to race. Here's a few examples.

The Marathon des Sables requires:
All of the obligatory equipment and personal belongings for each competitor (food, survival equipment and kit, waist pouch…) should weigh between 6.5kg and 15 kg. This minimum/maximum weight does not include your daily water supply. Each participant will have to fulfil the above obligations during the administrative and technical checks in Morocco (see ARTICLE. 27 and 28).

Food:
Each entrant must provide his/her own food from 05 to 15 April inclusive.
He/she must select the type of food best suited to his/her personal needs, health, weather conditions, weight and backpack conditions. We remind you that airlines strictly forbid the carrying of gas (for cooking) on board either as hand luggage or otherwise. Each competitor must have 12,000 k/calories - a minimum of 2,000 k/calories per day, otherwise he/she will be penalised (see ARTICLE. 27 and 28). Gas stoves are strictly forbidden.

CALORIES (Kcal.)
Reminder of the minimum calories to be presented during the evening technical controls in Morocco.

Day 1 – 12,000 calories
Day 2 – 10,000 calories
Day 3 – 8,000 calories
Day 4 – 6,000 calories
Day 5 – 4 000 calories
Day 6 – 2 000 calories
Day 7 – 0 calories

Survival gear:
• Backpack or equivalent (best suited to each participant),
• Sleeping bag
• Head torch with spare batteries
• 10 safety pins
• Compass with 1° or 2° precision
• Lighter
• A whistle
• Knife with metal blade
• Topical disinfectant
• Anti-venom pump
• A signalling mirror
• One aluminium survival sheet
• 200 euros or equivalent in foreign currency.

Survival Kit:
Supplied by the organisation and will include the following:
• A road-book issued on 05 april
• A distress flare
• Salt tablets
• A check-in card (for checkpoints and water)
• 8 sachets for the toilets.

This kit will be issued during the technical and administrative checks in Morocco. A luminous stick will be issued at checkpoint No. 3 of the non-stop stage.
The distress flare must be handed in to the organisation at the finish of the marathon stage.

Ultra-Trail Mount Fuji requires:
Course map (please download and printout the "Overall Course Map" and "Detailed Course Map" from the official website)
Mobile phone (you must be able to make/receive calls in Japan with this mobile phone). The emergency phone number for race headquarters will be written on your racer number card/bib. Make sure your phone is fully charged before the race. You may receive emergency information on your phone before/during the race.
Personal cup for hot/cold drinks at aid stations (minimum 150cc size). Paper cups will not be provided at the aid stations.
Water (you must carry a minimum of 1L of water at the start line and upon leaving each aid station)
Food
2 lights with replacement batteries for both lights. Battery life will decline in cold temperatures.
Survival blanket (minimum size of 130cm x 200cm)
Whistle
Adhesive elastic tape/band (minimum length of 80cm x 3cm)
Portable/disposable toilet
Warm fleece or warm long sleeve shirt. Cotton shirts are not allowed.
Warm running pants or leggings or a combination of tights/leggings and long socks which cover the legs completely. Cotton pants/leggings are not allowed.
Warm gloves/mittens and hat that covers your ears.
Waterproof rain jacket with hood & rain pants (both made of waterproof and breathable membrane such as Gore-Tex or something similar; seams must be seam-sealed)
Bear bell
First aid kit (such as band aids, disinfectant, etc)
Overseas travel/accident insurance policy
Race number card/bib and Race IC Chips (to put on both shoes). These will be given to you at the race.
Flashing reflector light (put this light on your backpack during the race so that cars will be able to see you at night). This light will be given to you at the race.
The highest point along the race course will be half way up Mt. Fuji at an elevation of 1,800m. According to weather data over the past 21 years, the average temperature in this area was 3.12 degrees Celsius and the lowest temperature was -0.28 degrees Celsius. If there is wind, your body will further lose heat. Please be aware that this race will be held regardless of rain or snow and you may face harsh weather conditions.
The mandatory equipment list provided here is only the minimum. You will be running in harsh conditions for two days and one night (one day and one night for the STY) so please ensure that you are well-prepared to manage your own safety and well-being and bring additional gear that you may need to do so.
STRONGLY RECOMMENDED EQUIPMENT
Compass, more warm clothing and a change of clothes, sunscreen, Vaseline/petroleum jelly, writing utensil/pen, cash

Ultra-Trail Mont Blanc requires:
Obligatory material :

mobile phone with option enabling its use in the three countries
(put in one’s repertoire the security numbers of the organisation, keep it switched on, do not hide one’s number and do not forget to set off with recharged batteries)
personal cup or tumbler 15cl minimum (water bottle not acceptable)
stock of water minimum 1 litre,
two torches in good working condition with replacement batteries,
survival blanket 1.40m x 2m minimum
whistle,
adhesive elastic band enable making a bandage or a strapping (mini 100cm x 6 cm),
food reserve,
jacket with hood and made with a waterproof (recommendation: minimum 10,000 Schmerber) and breathable (recommendation: RET lower than 13) membrane (Gore-Tex or similar) which will withstand the bad weather in the mountains.
long running trousers or leggings or a combination of leggings and long socks which cover the legs completely,
Additional warm midlayer top: One single midlayer long sleeve top for warmth (cotton excluded) with a minimum weight of 180g (Men, size M)
OR a two piece clothing combination of a long sleeve baselayer/midlayer for warmth (cotton excluded) with a minimum weight of 110g (Men, size M) and a windproof jacket* with DWR (Durable Water Repellent) protection
cap or bandana
warm hat
warm and waterproof gloves
waterproof over-trousers
* The windproof jacket does not replace the mandatory waterproof jacket with hood

Required by the frontier police forces :

identity papers
Very strongly recommended :

Knife or scissors with which to cut the self-adhesive elasticised bandage
walking poles for security on slippery ground in case of rain or snow
a change of warm clothes indispensable in the case of cold weather, rain or injury
the sum of 20 € minimum (in order to cover the unexpected....)
Advised (list not definitive) :

Telescopic sticks, change of clothing, compass, knife, string, sun cream, Vaseline or anti-chaffing cream, needle and thread,...

All clothing must be the runner’s size and without alteration since leaving the factory.
You will carry this material in a pack which must be tagged at the race-bib distribution and is not exchangeable during the race.

If you decide to use poles, you must keep them throughout the whole of the race… It is forbidden to start without sticks and recover them up along the way.
No poles will be allowed in the spare’s bags.
 
Ultra running has some interesting positives, but interesting negatives as well. Runs of that distance not only serve to deplete your energy reserves, but alsonweaken your immune system in the period following the run (beer seems to help with this, no joke!), and you have to be aware of the severity and high probability of repetitive stress injuries involved with that level of training. There's also the issue that you are training you body to require an immense caloric intake to offset the burn. One of the effects of that is you're going to go into starvation mode really, really quickly in a situation where you're deprived of that diet.

Basically, being ultra fit is obviously more desirable than being a sack of lard, but it also honestly has some serious drawbacks. Honestly, I think from a survival perspective your time is better spent out hiking and practicing skills than running 25 miles per day.

It IS pretty cool that people do this, though. My cousin ran the JFK and finished, but was near collapse by the end.
 
^^ thanks for posting those lists :)

^ a very long run can stress the body, recovery is an important part of any athletic endeavor- no surprise that some recover more quickly than others My recoveries are much shorter than when I first starting running just two years ago

it is true that if you want to maintain a certain weight and you're getting a lot of exercise, you'll need to eat more (calories expended vs calories in)- I'd wager that for most folks some of the pounds they are carrying are unwanted and will not be missed :D

again not advocating everyone strive to run the Western States 100 (certainly not a goal for me), but there are definitely some things we can all learn when it comes to moving quickly/lightly through the wild

I'd agree that hiking is great alternative to running, one of the guys that was with of us for our Joshua Tree run decided he was going to hike the route vs run it (his training hadn't been where he wanted it)- he came in well after dark (38 miles is a pretty decent hike :D), but certainly no worse for the wear, evidenced by his quick entry into the beer cooler!
 
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