What do you do with $400 knives? Seriously?

AllenC, let me try to explain this in another way. When I first became interested in custom knives, I was drawn to forged fixed blades. I dunno why exactly, thats another thread. I only use two or three of these on any regular basis, the rest are potential users, but mostly just artwork.

Anyway, I collected almost 20 one-of-a-kind forged fixed blades over 5 years or so. I spent lots more than $400 on some of these. I found out pretty quickly that you can only carry and use so many fixed blades, but my desire to have More was unstaunched. Pretty soon I had a lot of nice custom knives, but because I work in an office in the city, I rarely get the chance or have cause to carry fixed blade knives.

During most of this time, I carried a Gerber LST lockback that my brother gave me more than a decade ago. It was not the nicest knife in the world, but it went everywhere with me, but performed by small daily cutting tasks just fine. Just two years ago, another brother asked me what my daily carry was. I was embarassed. So I went out and purchased three very nice production blades for daily carry purposes (I am an office worker, and that influences my choice of blades): a BM 850, a Spyderco Centofante, and a Kershaw Ken Onion mini-task knife. I like all of these knives and they served me well for about a year.

But then I realized that there was No reason that I should not be able to also enjoy the thrill of carrying and using a much nicer custom folder. suddenly custom folders became a lot more interesting to me. My comfort level, income level, and sense of aesthetics don't allow me to purchase and carry a $1200 user knife (yet). However, my last three knife purchases were made for the specific purpose of carry and use. The money I paid for them is really unimportant. The money is gone. I have the knives. I hope to not ever have to exchange these knives for money again. I spent money to buy tools that I plan to keep the rest of my life. It gives me great pleasure to open mail with my PJ Tomes pearl handled gents folder with a 420V blade. It is even more fun to tear up boxes and whittle with my new, larger Tomes Remington folder with its more economical but much larger Sandvik 12C27 blade.

I get a thrill out of taking one of these out of my pocket, and doing something as mundane as peeling an orange. It is just plain fun.

So I guess I buy some knives for collecting, and some knives for using, but for me, there is no good reason why I should not carry and use a $600 custom instead of a $100 Spyderco. I do not carry a 'beater' knife, anywhere. I carry my favorite tools, selected daily based on where I am going to be and what I plan to do. But for the most part, my production knives never make it out the house anymore.

I do not think this attitude is elitist, or snobbish, or ridiculous, or any other adjective or invective you may wish to call my habit. I am 42 years old, I can afford nice cars but drive a 12 year old Mazda, and I carry knives that cost more than $400. So what.

I can understand how this all seems unfair, or weird, or silly to someone who may not have even $100 to spend something that combines utility and aesthetics so perfectly as the art form of knifemaking does. I can afford it, I enjoy it, and I where cheap watches, use cheap pens, and drive cheap cars and have been faithful to the same woman for more than twenty years. It's my life. And that's the way I like it :)

Para
 
Well said Para.

Knives (and anything else that I use on a regular basis) are things I strive to have the best of for my purposes. I go for the best I can afford as the need/desire arrises. You can upgrade as your finances allow.

Paul
 
I am not what is called a "working man" sort of speak, but I spend alot of time in the field as a Forensic Engineer. I used to carry a BM Pinnacle as the "beater" knife while I also carried my Terzuola ATCF. I no longer carry the BM, just the Terzuola. I use for everything, it is shoved into charred wood, cuts 6mil plastic, duct tape, cardboard boxes, etc. I am not afraid to use that custom knife for anything. I babied it at first, but no longer. I have many other customs that are not used, and some of those cost more or less than the ATCF.
 
I guess all the stuff I do with my knife is just my imagination:confused:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=175039&highlight=EDC
Of course, everything I wrote there was a lie, cause people don't really use >$400 knives...just ones they can buy at Wal-Mart.
I drive a truck I paid $11,000 for. My buddy that works at the same place, and parks in the same parking lot, drives a decked out Expedition that he paid over $43,000 for. Or does he...? Well, I thought he did. Now that my eyes have been opened, it's obvious that can't be true. He can't really be driving that vehicle, 'cause it cost 4 times as much as mine did.
My friend with the 32" Sony Trinitron Wega, is just lying, too. When it comes time to watch something, I bet he pulls out a 27" Magnavox, just like mine. I bet that Sony's not even plugged in. No way he really pays that much just to watch tv. He told me the picture was great, and that he watches alot of movies...dang liar.
:rolleyes:
 
Owen, I remember that thread. I am glad to see that you use that knife to the fullest extent. Hopefully, I will have to send my ATCF back to Bob one of these days when it can't be abused anymore:D
 
Owen,DBH please don't get me wrong I'm glad some people use and enjoy the high dollar knives,not that it matters what I think its their choice.Hang 'em on the wall or smash 'em on a rock your choice.But lets face it anyone on this forum is in the top 1% of knife users who are also knife "guys".

I have worked a couple years of construction,10 years on a shipping dock and 12 in the fire dept.My co-workers and I carried and used knives daily in all those jobs. Many of the guys could not tell you the brand let alone the model of the knife,type of steel?Theres more than one?

Sure theres FF's and dock workers who may carry and use fine knives,its just rare.Joe 6-pack gets along just fine with what wal-marts got.

Owen you may use $400 plus knives 99.9999% of the rest of American workers don't.We got 525 guys on the dept.I'm the only knife guy that I know of,I fight an up hill battle to get most guys to "step up" to a CRKT closeout!Maybe 5% would spend 40-50 for a zytel Spyderco and this is among guys who USE knives.To quote one of my co-workers when he first saw my knife magizines in the firehouse,"what kind of A**hole buys knife magizines?"I tried telling him about steel,heat treat,fit and finish,to which he replied"its a KNIFE you stick it in something and cut it!!".

As far as buying the best you can aford,I'm a law of diminishing returns type of guy.A $50 knife will preform 10x's that of a $5 one,so I'll buy that but will a $500 dollar one have a 10 fold increase over the $50?I like and enjoy nice things,but my goal is to retire with seven figures at age 50.Now thats enjoying life.(8 more years to go).

I've read enough of these "what did you cut today"threads to know that the top 3 things cut by BFM's is mail,fruit and threads,light duty use by guys who's hobby is knives.I've worked enough blue collar jobs to see what is used day in and day out by guys who see a knife as a tool of the trade.Are there exceptions sure just about everyone here is one.




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Lonehunter, do not miss read my post. I was not saying anything negative. Everyone has their own opinions, and that makes everything better. I completely see your point of view. I hope I can retire to when I am 50(that probably won't happen, I think that is when Forensic Engineer hits his prime:D )

Enjoy life!
 
Paracelsus, okay maybe you're the exception that proves the rule. But my previous comments still stand for the vast majority of high-dollar knife owners.
This is'nt a personal attack or anything, but you don't think you're elitist or snobbish (and I've never got that impression from you) but you said you were EMBARASSED by the Gerber LST as a EDC?

That's like being embarassed because your friends find Miller High Life beer in the fridge instead of Warsteiner.

Like I said before, there's nothing wrong with spending a ton of money on the things that bring you happiness.
But I still believe the true and greatest motivator behind high-dollar knives is elitism, money, and classism.

It's just my opinion and nothing more,
Allen
 
In a whirlwind six months I have learned a lot about knives.
The more I learned the more new areas of exploration opened up.
Custom knifes, to me, were an unobtainable, elitist waste of money.

Until I saw, what I considered to be the ultimate EDC advertised on Bladeart’s web page.
I tentatively inquired, negotiated and thought – what the hell, for the price of two production knives, I’ll get my perfect knife.

For the first month I took it out of it’s little zipper bag and just looked at it.
The workmanship, the file work, the mirror polish.
I then contacted the knife maker to ask the history of the knife.
He responded and - in passing, mentioned that it is sad that some people don’t use the tools that he spent so long making.

That set me thinking.
I do not intend ever selling it.
I did not buy it as an investment.
I started to use the knife and carry it.
I am glad that I did.
It gives me pleasure each time I take it out of my pocket.
I do not show it to everyone around me in the hope that I will be envied.
It is my personal little indulgence. :D
 
Originally posted by Lone Hunter
...Owen you may use $400 plus knives 99.9999% of the rest of American workers don't.
...Are there exceptions sure just about everyone here is one.
I know what you're saying. I agree with you, but this thread is not about what 99.9999% of American workers use.
Look at the title. It's about people who own $400 knives.
I own (and use) a $400+ knife, so I responded to the thread.

Some people, who obviously don't, decided to respond anyway, offer sarcasm or criticism for the people who do, stereotype them, and even insinuate that they are lying.
I fail to see the point in that, and seriously doubt that any one of us who liked a knife enough to lay four hundred bucks or more down for it really cares if anyone else likes it or not, or has any desire to be criticized for what they do (or don't do) with it.
 
Originally posted by OwenM

I know what you're saying. I agree with you, but this thread is not about what 99.9999% of American workers use.
Look at the title. It's about people who own $400 knives.
I own (and use) a $400+ knife, so I responded to the thread.


Well stated, OwenM.
 
It amazes me that people worry so much about what other folks do with their own money. For those who don't want to spend $400+ on knives, don't do it! There are plenty of great knives under $40 for those who do not want to spend. I would like to say, however, that wastefulness is in the eye of the beholder. Many of you guys who wouldn't buy a custom, but who own a dozen or more inexpensive knives have often spent more money than the equivalent of two or three good customs, if not more. To the Wal-mart Buck/Schrade/Imperial guy who owns one good knife, you guys are wasteful in the extreme. "Judge not, lest thou be judged."

As I said earlier, all of us are willing to splurge on some things and scrimp on others, except for those who simply love money for its own sake (or sense of security). I just can't understand criticizing anyone for being happy with their knife. We are all supposed to be knifenuts.
 
Very interesting post. For me carrying a $400 or greater (custom) knife is just a cool way of having a one-of-a-kind item that I can both use and enjoy the craftsmanship in and of itself. I have paintings that do nothing but hang on a wall, but I enjoy looking at them. I have a 100 year old pocket watch sitting on my desk that tells time like a $15 Timex, but it's the craftsmanship, wear marks, and knowing it has made it though those 100 years that give it character. Having a useful piece of art is just an added bonus. In a disposable, 'everything's the same' kind of world, it's nice to have something unique. Just my $.02.
 
Originally posted by OwenM
Some people, who obviously don't, decided to respond anyway, offer sarcasm or criticism for the people who do, stereotype them, and even insinuate that they are lying.
I fail to see the point in that, and seriously doubt that any one of us who liked a knife enough to lay four hundred bucks or more down for it really cares if anyone else likes it or not, or has any desire to be criticized for what they do (or don't do) with it.

AMEN brother Owen! You speak the truth.
 
Lonehunter hit the nail on the head here.

I have worked mechanic, gas-pumping, janitorial, big-game charter fishing, landscaping, roofing, landscape construction and even a few others.

I have been downright laughed at when telling people my knife cost $100. Even the $40 spydees are seen as too expensive. At the gas-station, which was a cop-hang out I would discuss knives with them. Two out of the maybe 20 actually had benchmades, and they loved them. The others all carried $20 street bought pieces. This is Garden City, Long Island. A private police force of over 50 officers who are paid over $65k a year on average.

JC
 
AllenC, I use my Pronghorn to cut everything and even to open most baoxes. The only thing I use my beater for is to open boxes with staples in them.

I do not think of myself as elitist. I love really good knives, and most of them are very expensive. Could I do the same thing with a cheaper knife? Probably. Would I enjoy it as much? No. I love using a fine tool. As an example. at work I use side cutters when working on electonics. These side cutters cost about $100.00. A set of $10.00 side cutters would do the same thing. They would not be as comfortable to use, would notstay sharp nearly as long and would not stand up to what I put them through for anywhere near as long. I feel the same about the knives I own.

I have owned, and still do own, knives from companies like Spyderco, Buck, Camillus, CRKT, REKAT, Gerber, Puma, Marbles, Languiole, Boker and Klotzli. I think some of these knives are marvellous. They offer tremendous value and I would recommend most of them to anyone that asked. Having used knives from all these companies, I have to say that as good as they were/are, my customs are better. They are better for the same reason that my side cutters are better and my buddies $10,000 mountain bike is better than my other friends $500.00 bike. They just feel better, work smoother and last longer. If I also feel a higher degree of pride of ownership then to me that is a good thing.

I am sure some knife owners are elitist, but I have not personally known any.
 
I saw this one in "The Gallery" and my head exploded. I posted my condition and then had it in my grimey paws 2 or 3 days later (Isn't the web great?). It goes everywhere with me. I had a cheapie defensive blade to take with me whenever I didn't want to put any wear on this one. It immediately occurred to me that it does me no good not being carried and hasn't left my side since. I, too, like the way that it's slowly acquiring a worn look.
I will add a knife to my very small collection if it completely blows me away. My search shall continue far and wide. No one knows what's next except for maybe Larry.
 
If I spend $400 or more on a knife, I plan to use it. I don't plan on abusing it, but use it I will... Its not a financial investment, but it is an investment in pleasure and enjoyment to own, carry, and use a wonderful handcrafted tool.

I get great pleasure out of shooting high quality precision air guns. Some people thing they are way over-priced BB-guns, but they aren't. They're great fun to shoot because they are so damn accurate. I own several high-quality air rifles (pellet guns--not BB-guns!)... my favorite is a Jim Maccari custom R9TK with a full-power tune, a DIY Tyrolean Grade 4 Walnut stock, topped off with a 4-16x50mm Hakko scope. I could buy several custom knives for what this air rifle cost me. I shoot it, and I use it, but I do not abuse it. I love this rifle!

Use your tools and toys while you can, otherwise someone else will when you die, and they might not appreciate the real value of these tools and toys!
 
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