"What do you need that weapon for?"

[PURPLEDC]

I was moreso speaking of the ones that implied that the woman was stupid and they would've blown up on her. I just don't see a point in it. "Hey, look at me, I'm macho!"

Also, check your second quote. I didn't post that. Not trying to be rude.

I realize that. That is why they are separate quotes, addressing different people and topics. This is commonly done on forums so that I dont have 5 replies in a thread right after another when there could be only one. Having the separate quotes is so that there is no confusion as to whom the comment is intended.

 

[maskedferret]

I notice that a lot of the young kids on here are infatuated with hacking and hacking culture. I don't understand it - unless you're an experienced computer programmer, screwing around with hackers will get your CPU eat up with viruses and could land your parents in jail. All computer hackers wants you for is to do their bidding, and maybe lend your CPU's processing power to a Denial of Service attack. ...

Your notion of "hacking culture" is seriously misguided thanks to the media; please educate yourself. The behavior that you are alluding to here is commonly referred to as "Cracking". "Hacker" != "Cracker".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(term)

 

[Janfrederik]

I realize that. That is why they are separate quotes, addressing different people and topics. This is commonly done on forums so that I dont have 5 replies in a thread right after another when there could be only one. Having the separate quotes is so that there is no confusion as to whom the comment is intended.

I'm aware.
Granted, my device could be malfunctioning, but it has my name as the original poster on your second quote.

 

[upnorth]

Man sorry for the second post. But reading a lot of the responses in this thread talking about calling her a B#&$ and engaging her in a fight, and telling her to f off. Even if some of you are joking I think its poor form. And you wonder why knife people are stigmatized? .

:thumbup:
Exactly. Is it really so hard to smile and give a reasoned\rational response to an elderly woman ? She may not agree with the reply, but at minimum she isn't going away angry and with her stereotypes reconfirmed. Whether we like it or not knives frighten some people for obvious reasons, such as their potential as weapons. We can be ambassadors of traditional knife use or be a snarling\frightening stereotype. We get back what we give out.

 

[kvtcomdo]

:thumbup:
Exactly. Is it really so hard to smile and give a reasoned\rational response to an elderly woman ? She may not agree with the reply, but at minimum she isn't going away angry and with her stereotypes reconfirmed. Whether we like it or not knives frighten some people for obvious reasons, such as their potential as weapons. We can be ambassadors of traditional knife use or be a snarling\frightening stereotype. We get back what we give out.

And you only get ONE chance at that first impression.

 

[baldtaco-II]

Being Polite, respectful, kind with a smile will always work best in any situation. If I get angry, or confrontational, rude so to does the other person.

That's my default position too. Hence my last post.

That said, I'll freely admit I'm not always that way. When someone comes up and feels they have a right to start interrogating me as to what I am doing or why I have X it is pretty obvious who initiated the confrontation. As a consequence I feel no onus on me to be on the back foot offering up some kind of defence. When that happens they get off lightly with “X is for minding my own business”. Smart people will know that as code for “cease with your accosting and withdraw”. It's just shy off “bugger off”, which I also reserve the right to serve up.

I know it's a bit John Wayne but still; “I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them”.

 

[Blackie Scantling]

You should have slapped her silly and stolen her purse if she was an actual citizen and not just a another park bench warming, mentally ill street person. Maybe she would then ponder her options for self defense such as carrying pepper spray, a stun gun or God forbid a knife.

 

[K.O.D.]

Yeah thats just a great idea for making knives more acceptable in the public eye.

 

[Blackie Scantling]

Yeah well, I'm one of the ones not on the constant defense worrying if my knife is OK.
Knife acceptance is only an issue if you worry about it.

I still heed to my Boy Scout credo of a prepared Scout always has his knife on him. If the public has decomposed away from that moral like all the other once accepted standards of being a good American then they need to stay away from me.

 

[Kai Winters]

I watched a video clip, on a TV show, a few days ago. It was a typical show of video clips like "funniest ..." but this time it was injuries, accidents, etc.
I watched two clips of the show before moving on as it was very difficult to watch people getting hurt badly...not in a funny way.

The clip pertaining to this thread was of a mother and two children in a mini van. She crashed and flipped the vehicle and it was on fire. She and one kid was pulled out but a toddler was strapped in his seat and due to the crash damage was "locked" in the seat and could not be removed. Many people risked injury and death trying to get the kid out but the seat straps were in a locked position and would not move.

NOBODY...AT LEAST TEN PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP...HAD A FRIGGING KNIFE...YOU COULD HEAR A WOMAN IN THE BACKGROUND SCREAMING FOR SOMEONE TO GET A KNIFE...FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT A KITCHEN KNIFE FROM THEIR HOME AND THE KID WAS RESCUED BUT WAS BURNED PRETTY BADLY. THERE WERE TWO FIREFIGHTERS THERE...THE RESCUERS ONE OF WHOM WAS BURNED BADLY ON HIS HAND/ARM...NO KNIFE EITHER.

That is one reason everyone should carry a knife. If just one person had a pocket knife the kid would have been saved with minor burning and the rescuer would not have been injured either. I'll bet some people there are now carrying a knife...I know I would have been one of them.

That is just ONE reason to carry a "weapon"...

 

[A Justice]

I understand what you're saying. I guess I was into "hacking" because I saw some cool video. I am giving all that crap up, there really isn't a use. Are you serious about the Griptillian?

Sure, you seem like you're really enthusiastic about participating here, which I think means you're enthusiastic about collecting knives. You're what, 15 now? So yeah, in 3 years (or whenever your 18th birthday is) if we're both still around, you're still packing your little mini grip (that shows that you're invested in owning such a knife and haven't gotten on drugs and pawned it) and everyone says "that anonymous kid sure straightened up and is now a good example of youth" I'll contribute a start to a birthday gift.

When I was your age there were 2 people that gave me really good advice. The first one was my brother, he told me to get along with my parents; and that it would make my life a whole lot easier. The other was a court ordered counselor - he told me "if you want to drink and party, do it at your house." For some reason I listened to both of them, and by the time I graduated HS I had just about the best self made life a teenager could possibly have. If you do stupid stuff, you're eventually going to have to pay for it. When you're older, you're going to wish you would have been smarter, and listened to more people that had already been in your shoes.

 

[Quiet]

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Exactly. Is it really so hard to smile and give a reasoned\rational response to an elderly woman ? She may not agree with the reply, but at minimum she isn't going away angry and with her stereotypes reconfirmed. Whether we like it or not knives frighten some people for obvious reasons, such as their potential as weapons. We can be ambassadors of traditional knife use or be a snarling\frightening stereotype. We get back what we give out.

Who wants to do that when we can just condescend to non-knife people and call them dumb "sheeple", instead amirite?

 

[A Justice]

Your notion of "hacking culture" is seriously misguided thanks to the media; please educate yourself. The behavior that you are alluding to here is commonly referred to as "Cracking". "Hacker" != "Cracker".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(term)

I know more about hacking and cracking than about anyone you'll ever meet - but demanding that people call criminals crackers is semantics. The wikipedia definition < the society accepted terms. There has already been one infraction issued for racism, I'm not going to go off on a rant about "Crackers". No one would know wtf I was talking about.

I don't let the media guide my notions, you'd do well not to let the trees block your view of the forest.

 

[Blackie Scantling]

I saw one like that KAI where a guy had been swept into a concrete drain canal during a flood. People raced downstream and managed to throw a rope across the canal ahead of him and tie both ends on the chain link. The guy got to the rope and hung to it, trying to keep his head above water while they tried to untie one end to let him swing to the other side. Except they couldn't get the wet rope's knot, now pulled tight from the weight, to untie. As the guy was losing strength and his head not coming to surface near enough to breath people were screaming for someone to just cut the rope but no one had a knife. A piece of debris, a stuffed sofa, finally knocked him loose. They found his body later downstream.

People... carry the G****m latest iPhone and headset but too helpless to carry a knife shows the de-evolution of man.

 

[James Y]

I've mentioned this on the forums before, but years ago a woman noticed me using the tiny scissors on my Victorinox Classic SD to snip some paper. She said, "I hope you realize that's a deadly weapon you're carrying." She was serious, and her tone was obnoxious. Now, if there are people who can think a Vic Classic is a deadly weapon (TSA sure does), then it's no surprise that any knife, no matter how small or benign, can be seen as such.

Jim

 

[B.F.U]

This thread is awful... Just awful.

 

[Nal0n]

I know more about hacking and cracking than about anyone you'll ever meet - but demanding that people call criminals crackers is semantics. The wikipedia definition < the society accepted terms. There has already been one infraction issued for racism, I'm not going to go off on a rant about "Crackers". No one would know wtf I was talking about.

I don't let the media guide my notions, you'd do well not to let the trees block your view of the forest.

I hope you wear a white hat, as I do, then
And yes, in this "Age of TheInternet" it would be nice to meet more individuals with real interest that know what they are talking about!

As for knives, park benches and weapons: I always try to use the right and least intimidating tool required for a job. If someone has a problem with that i try to be polite and educate. I have to admit a tendency to slip into passive-agressive patterns too quickly...

 

[Blackie Scantling]

I've mentioned this on the forums before, but years ago a woman noticed me using the tiny scissors on my Victorinox Classic SD to snip some paper. She said, "I hope you realize that's a deadly weapon you're carrying."

Jim

"Ok, I'll put it back in my pocket if you'll put a bag over your head."

 

[Comeuppance]

I've mentioned this on the forums before, but years ago a woman noticed me using the tiny scissors on my Victorinox Classic SD to snip some paper. She said, "I hope you realize that's a deadly weapon you're carrying." She was serious, and her tone was obnoxious. Now, if there are people who can think a Vic Classic is a deadly weapon (TSA sure does), then it's no surprise that any knife, no matter how small or benign, can be seen as such.

Jim

I think that, to some degree, one has to differentiate between a common perception and an unreasonable person. I once had a guy tell me to "not f[***]ing look at [him] like that or [he is] going to f[***] [me] up."

Granted, this guy was about three times my age and gangly, so I told him "I wasn't looking at you, and, even if I was, I can look anywhere I damned well please in any fashion for as long as I wish. Go f[***} yourself, buddy." He kept yelling threats and I kept walking with a firm middle finger aimed directly behind me.

I'm not some snappy punk kid, but, I don't feel that it's wise to sheepishly react to the unreasonably angry or dumb unless you or someone else is at real physical risk. If I think their actions are uncalled for, I won't reward them by letting them win.

In the situation of being criticized for a SAK being a "deadly weapon", I would probably remind her that her definition of a deadly weapon makes almost everyone around her an armed psychopath (keys, toothpicks, keychains with any kind of heft, earrings, etc), and ask how she managed to not panic all the time.

Actually, that's pretty idealistic. In the heat of the moment, I'd probably just say "Yes, I shall slay thousands of corrugated boxes with this knife without mercy, pity, or remorse."

 

[30ZappHappy30]

Once again, we really have no idea what actually happened. There could have been some details left out... Just sayin'.