What does and does not belong in the custom forum

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Les Robertson

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Spark,

Interesting that you moved that thread out of the custom forum as it "did not belong".

I only wish your vigilance would extend to other threads in the custom knife forum. For instance on the best fighter thread, there is a picture of two Cold Steel knives.

As this is a picture of a FACTORY knife, it should obviously not be in the CUSTOM Knife Forum.

Please remove it.

As for the thread you have removed. I would appreciate it if you would remove it from the practical tactical forum and move it to mine.

Thanks,

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Les Robertson
www.robertsoncustomcutlery.com

"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor"
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Les, It didn't belong. Period. You should have known it didn't belong. Period. This isn't a quantum leap in logic here.

Regarding the Best Fighter thread, I haven't read it, so I didn't see it, nor will I make a decision on it sight unseen. For now, I'll leave it up to the moderators of this forum to decide what they want to do with it.

I did, however, read the thread you started, and it didn't belong here. So, I moved it. Either continue it in the Pratical Tactical Forum, or start a new one in your own forum, your choice.

Have a nice day.
Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Kevin,

It was not obvious to me that it did not belong. I did not know the "Pratical Tactical" forum even exsisted.

You are selectively censoring threads.

I have brought it to your attention that a factory knife is in a thread and you now state that it is the custom knife forum moderators job to do that.

Why wasnt it the moderators job to lock and or move the Reality Check thread?

As you have already stated Gus, Larry or Howard all have the capability to move or lock a thread. So why did you feel it was necessary for you to prempt your moderators.

Kevin, surely you learned in the Army to utilize the chain of command. To trust those who you have put in charge. Mike has selected these individuals because they have the experience to do the job.

By removing them from the loop and not allowing them to deal with it (as Larry was trying to do), you are showing all who read these threads that you do not trust these individuals to do their job as moderators.

Rule 1 of delegating authority:

You delegate the responsibility as well as the authority.

Custom Knife Forum Moderators, since Kevin has continued to re-set the rules. Please remove the cold steel photo in the Fighting Knife thread. As Kevin has given you the power to now do this and as he pointed out, it does not belong in this forum.



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Les Robertson
www.robertsoncustomcutlery.com

"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor"
Albert Einstein
 
Originally posted by Les Robertson:
Kevin,

It was not obvious to me that it did not belong. I did not know the "Pratical Tactical" forum even exsisted.
I guess the blame for that lies with you then, for failing to look about the site. Lack of judgement and ignorance aren't a valid excuse. Considering that there has been a Tactics & Training Category and Practical Tactical forum for over a year, as well as prominent hyperlinks for them throughout the forums, "I didn't know" isn't an excuse - especially for someone who has been posting on the forums since we opened.

You are selectively censoring threads.
I love it when someone screams "censorship", especially on a privately owned site. Usually the next thing is "First Amendment!"

As for the "selectiveness" of my "censorship", that's part of a moderator's job - they "select" the threads that do and don't belong. Thanks for proving my point for me.

I have brought it to your attention that a factory knife is in a thread and you now state that it is the custom knife forum moderators job to do that.
Exactly right. When you were in the Army, did you Micromanage every aspect of your platoon's lives, or did you trust your PL's and PSG's to take care of things? At the same time, when you spotted something wrong, did you step in to correct it, or just let it go until someone else noticed it?

Again, not a rocket science dilemma.

Why wasnt it the moderators job to lock and or move the Reality Check thread?

As you have already stated Gus, Larry or Howard all have the capability to move or lock a thread. So why did you feel it was necessary for you to prempt your moderators.

Because I spotted it. I was proactive. End of story. That should be all the justification that you need for any moderator or administrator taking action.

Kevin, surely you learned in the Army to utilize the chain of command. To trust those who you have put in charge. Mike has selected these individuals because they have the experience to do the job.

By removing them from the loop and not allowing them to deal with it (as Larry was trying to do), you are showing all who read these threads that you do not trust these individuals to do their job as moderators.

Rule 1 of delegating authority:

You delegate the responsibility as well as the authority.

Custom Knife Forum Moderators, since Kevin has continued to re-set the rules. Please remove the cold steel photo in the Fighting Knife thread. As Kevin has given you the power to now do this and as he pointed out, it does not belong in this forum.

Les, see above. There is a difference between delegating the authority and responsibility, and shirking it. I read the thread, thought to myself, "This doesn't belong here" and instead of waiting for someone else to do something about it, I took care of it myself - especially since it was an easy fix.

I would guess that if you saw a piece of litter on the ground, and a wastebasket nearby, you would leave it there until someone from trash collection picked it up?

If you were still in the Army, if you came across someone in your unit badmouthing a superior, out of uniform, or any one of a million other minor offences that you could easily fix, you would walk away, or would you correct it on the spot?

Maybe you should leave the administration of this site to Mike and Myself, since you don't seem to be cognizant of how our moderator "team" works.

Since you bring up the "chain of command" you should also firmly understand that when Mike or myself say something is inappropriate, it is inappropriate.

If you have anything further you would like to discuss in this thread, you can do it offline, my phone number is readily available. Otherwise, you can either accept that you were wrong, and learn from it, or move on. Dragging "but this happened here!" doesn't excuse your own behavior - otherwise speeding tickets wouldn't be handed out.

Have a nice day.

Spark

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[This message has been edited by Spark (edited 07-27-2000).]
 
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