What does USPS MO mean? Well, here is the correct answer and other tips of the day

Here's another. As previously mentioned.....WHat do you do if you have shipped multiple knives and somehow one is missing?


Well, I had never experienced this and it took awhile to figure out how to fix it. See, if you ship a box and its full of different items, but the recipient receives the box there is no way to have the one item covered. As far as PO is concerned the box made it intact so what do you do?

If this ever happens the only way I can see you can fix it and be 100% that you shipped the item is to have the person return everything back to you as it was shipped. THen you can check the weight on the scales and subsequently know whether it was in there or not.
 
A signaute confirmation package can not be left without handing it to someone and getting there signature just like every package that is insured for over $201.00. Everything over $201 gets a blue insurance sticker and must be signed for. Anything under $201 gets a black insurance sticker and it can be left without signature. SO, IMHO anything insured for under $200 is almost worthless cause you cant prove anything and even if you get a refund it will take 6 months.

This is absolutely true. I found this out the hard way. I shipped a knife Priority Mail Fully Insured, w/ delivery confirmation. The Cost of the knife was $199 paid by USPS MO. To make very long story short, the customer claimed he never received the knife, but delivery confirmation showed it as being delivered. USPS would NOT cover the subsequent Insurance claim I filed. Had I put Signature required or just sold the knife for $201 I would have been covered.
Since the buyer claimed he never received the knife, I refunded his money. Insurance was WORTHLESS in this case.
 
This is absolutely true. I found this out the hard way. I shipped a knife Priority Mail Fully Insured, w/ delivery confirmation. The Cost of the knife was $199 paid by USPS MO. To make very long story short, the customer claimed he never received the knife, but delivery confirmation showed it as being delivered. USPS would NOT cover the subsequent Insurance claim I filed. Had I put Signature required or just sold the knife for $201 I would have been covered.
Since the buyer claimed he never received the knife, I refunded his money. Insurance was WORTHLESS in this case.

I hate to hear that happened to you brother. Hopefully, this thread will help keep others from having similar things happen to them.:thumbup:

Now, you dont have to sell it for more than $201 to get $201 insurance on a package. See, if you are close you might go ahead and insure the package for $201. THen you dont necessarily need the confirmation cause seller has to sign reagardless. THis really only works with folks you know that trust you to ship. See, some want the tracking # so that they feel comfortable that you shipped. I have heard that they check the # and hence know when to go to PO to pick up too. However, I use the signature always cause you get the elctronic tracking which I dont believe you get with either insurance or DC. THis makes it much easier if you do have a claim using paypal cause you can send them the # and they can see the report on USPS.com
 
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I hate to hear that happened to you brother. Hopefully, this thread will help keep others from having similar things happen to them.:thumbup:

Now, you dont have to sell it for more than $201 to get $201 insurance on a package.

That's correct...I insured it for the selling price of $199. Had I bumped the insurance $2, I would have been covered.
I guess the moral to the story is this. Any regular, non-Paypal sale, under $199 needs to have both Sig Required and Insurance to be covered. Obviously, MO and "Gifted" Paypal transactions offer no protection.

Looking back, my mistake seems so obvious. But at the time, I wasn’t aware of the $201 rule.
 
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I lost a USPS MO that had been sent to me for knife payment. Someone must have put it in a very special place in the bakery :eek: because we never found it.

The kind Hog who sent it was able to get it replaced with a little hassle on his part, and I didn't have to "eat it!"
 
Lotta good info here :thumbup:
"common sense" goes a long way :)


I would like to add ''Mint'' means ''New Condition" and "New Condition" means "Mint''
I've seen so many posts over my few years with: New Condition Knife, Chips in the coating, resharpened, sanded handles, other than that it's "Mint''.
This is not in any way ''Mint'' or in ''New Condition''

I have an issue with that statement....
what is "mint"?
what is "perfect"?
there are people who can find flaws in a knife shipped to
them directly from Busse. That is as new and mint and perfect
as one can get.
A knife may be new and "factory fresh"
yet still have "flaws" (no matter how minor and insignificant to the
seller) to some very scrutinizing people.

I guess what Im saying is if I were to list
a knife for sale,I would list it as "new condition as received from Busse"
and then list any flaws I might have seen.

Honestly is God's sedative.

(damn,that was pretty profound I thought :D ).
 
However, I use the signature always cause you get the elctronic tracking which I dont believe you get with either insurance or DC. THis makes it much easier if you do have a claim using paypal cause you can send them the # and they can see the report on USPS.com

I'm pretty sure you get tracking capability with DC. The DC slip has the tracking # on it. Unless I have lost my mind again.
 
I'm pretty sure you get tracking capability with DC. The DC slip has the tracking # on it. Unless I have lost my mind again.

You're right. Sig/C allows you to get an electronic copy of the signature of the person who signed for it, IIRC. Also, even though insured packages over $50 should always be signed for, occasionally they are left at the door with D/C, and that ends the USPS's responsibility for it...and sometimes that's when the package "goes missing" (read: gets stolen). that hot pink Sig/C slip is to remind the courier to always get that signature. :)
 
Here's another. As previously mentioned.....WHat do you do if you have shipped multiple knives and somehow one is missing?


Well, I had never experienced this and it took awhile to figure out how to fix it. See, if you ship a box and its full of different items, but the recipient receives the box there is no way to have the one item covered. As far as PO is concerned the box made it intact so what do you do?

If this ever happens the only way I can see you can fix it and be 100% that you shipped the item is to have the person return everything back to you as it was shipped. THen you can check the weight on the scales and subsequently know whether it was in there or not.

I'd have to call BS. Sorry that happened to ya Bro!:thumbdn:
 
Don't ship in the smallest box you can find. Use a Medium or large flat-rate USPS box over a small flat-rate box. Small boxes are easily concealed if someone decides to take someone else's property. If a small box falls out of a postal bin or off a conveyor, they may sit in some not often accessed area of the facility for a while before being found.. Big boxes are hard to hide and easily found no matter what.

Take pictures of all contents before sealing it up. Put an address label on all items inside the box in case the box splits open and something falls out. All items inside should be wrapped in something with padding and taped secure so you cannot tell what it is by looking at it. Weigh the box and photo the weight indicated after sealing it up. Photograph the box and address label.

Save the insurance and DC or SC tags along with the receipt until you hear from the new owner everything is OK.
 
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I've been buying some items on amazon and ebay recently and looking at the feedback between sellers to determine which to purchase from. Sometimes you'll find stuff like multiple people complaining of an intense smoke smell that was never mentioned in the sales ad, and after 3 or 4 of those you can pretty much expect your item to smell like smoke. What I've seen a lot of recently leaves me feeling bad for the sellers. I've sold quite a few items here on bladeforums, on amazon, craigslist and ebay. I've also bought a ton of items. I have 100% positive feedback on all of the forums I use, so this isn't me lashing out against people who have done me wrong, rather what I see others doing to other sellers.

If you buy a pair of boots and they don't fit - that is not cause for bad feedback. Sizing varies between manufacturers and even between lines (carhartt makes their raingear larger so you can layer under it). It's not the sellers responsibility to determine what size your body is, he/she is selling a known item in a stated size (given by the manufacturer). If you need to know if it will fit you specifically, you need ask for specific measurements before buying. Even worse, when people say they intended to buy a different brand. That is not a cause for negative feedback - you bought that brand knowing it from the sale page, the seller did everything he/she was supposed to do.

I hate seeing this: Neutral feedback: "Great transaction." Don't give neutral feedback without having a reason for it. It isn't about how you feel, it's about legitimate concerns with how your transaction happened, if you got your item in the ebay described ship times and it was the item you purchased - that seller does not deserve neutral or negative feedback. You got what you paid for, on time.

Don't give negative feedback if you just don't like the item. It's not the sellers responsibility to provide you with a product that is higher quality then what the manufacturer makes. If you buy tents that are made in a way that causes them to have condensation problems, that's an issue with that brand of tent, not with the transaction. If you buy boots with a known issue of stitching coming out in just over a month, thats an issue with the boot manufacturer, not the seller.

If your pissed that the knife has a scratch on one side - go back and reread the sale page, look at the photo's before you post negative feedback. If the person says "in new condition. There are some light scratches on the right side." then he told you they were there. If the photo's clearly show that it's got scratches, then you saw them before you purchased it. examine the knife BEFORE you scrub it with a brillo pad or do any kind of cleaning to be sure that if it does have problems, it came that way before you handled it.

Take your time with feedback, especially when you want to give negative feedback. Think of it from both positions, if you were selling something and someone had the same complaint against you, would you still find it reasonable? Feedback is about transaction quality, whether the sale information was accurate, whether you got what was described in the sale ad. If your problems are not related to those things, don't let them change feedback that is supposed to be about the transaction itself.


This is not to say that bad things should be overlooked. If you get a knife that was described as 'new' with no other information and it's edge is gnarled or it's got obvious signs of having been used, then there is often a legitimate issue with the quality of the transaction or the sales description. Just don't tarnish the public reputation of someone if unless they actually deserve it. Do not give emotional feedback at the height of being pissed off for whatever reason, take your time. Be concise. Be clinical about it. A precise description of the reasons someone deserves negative feedback is almost always more informative then someone ranting about how furious they are at the individual rather then the transaction itself. It is also much easier to resolve in a real way, items can be shipped back, refunds can be had, options can be discussed. If you want emotional compensation - your probably not going to get it. Things will probably turn into a heated argument that leaves both parties in a worse place and no one benefited from it at all.
 
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one more instance of undeserved feedback, on one of the sellers I purchased from:
"BUYERS BEWARE!!! NO COMMUNICATION & DIDNT COMBINE SHIPPING"

If the seller does not specifically state "will combine shipping" - don't expect them to. On a lot of items a base shipping cost is a means of making a profit, you need to look at the overall cost of an item as price+shipping. If you expect to get ten 0.01$ items with 9.99$ shipping for a grand total of 10.09$ you need to be sure before buying that the seller will combine shipping. This is simply how ebay works, you are agree to a price and a shipper charge per item unless otherwise noted. Even though it may be assumed that a forum like this won't work like that: ask before hand. If someone says '5$ shipping charge' you need to assume that it is per item unless otherwise noted. If you don't want to pay 25$ shipping for 5 items, ask before hand.
 
In regards to shipping mulitple items where one is missing, it is absolutely worth weighing the items before hand when you ship them. The more information you have to provide to whomever you ship through the better. I've personally had a partial shipment refunded from fedex by providing them the weights of each item to show that I had in fact shipped both items intially. They refunded the cost of the item that was missing based on that, and the forwarded communications showing that the customer was saying that they were missing an item.
 
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I thought it meant Monkey Organ, they have a box of those for sale at my post office.
 
Hey guys, I haven't read the whole thread, but some comments I saw on the first page about insurance made me want to pipe up. I think some of your thoughts on insurance may be slightly misguided. USPS Insurance is not that great. Why? It's expensive. If you ship alot, it adds up over the year. But more importantly, the USPS claims process is a pain in the neck and takes alot of time to recover funds. They often try to negotiate a settlement (this could be after 1 or 2 months) and so you may never recoup the total insured value anyways. Like dealing with any large government bureaucracy, it sucks, doesn't work very well, and nothing is guaranteed. The better way to go? Private insurance.

I'm not talking Homeowners or any general crap like that. I use a blanket policy through a private insurer to cover all of my shipments. All they require is that the package require a signature. I can insure high amounts much more cost effectively, and more importantly, claims are handled quickly and painlessly and payment is in the mail in under one week. Does this insurance cost me? Yep, it ain't free. But it's a much better service than the USPS crap.

So don't be so down on folks who insure shipments with a carrier different from USPS. If a claim is needed, you'll be glad the seller is privately insured rather than just had a Post Office insurance label on it. Many high-end collectors use this type of insurance because it just works better and provides more safety. So tip: Next time you receive a package that was supposed to have been sent insured but doesn't have an insurance label on it, don't assume the seller was delinquent. He may be more on the ball than you think.
 
Here's another tip.
Don't list a knife that costs hundreds of dollars and not post pictures.

Use a regular camera, not a cellphone camera that produces dark blurry photo's.
 
Hey guys, I haven't read the whole thread, but some comments I saw on the first page about insurance made me want to pipe up. I think some of your thoughts on insurance may be slightly misguided. USPS Insurance is not that great. Why? It's expensive. If you ship alot, it adds up over the year. But more importantly, the USPS claims process is a pain in the neck and takes alot of time to recover funds. They often try to negotiate a settlement (this could be after 1 or 2 months) and so you may never recoup the total insured value anyways. Like dealing with any large government bureaucracy, it sucks, doesn't work very well, and nothing is guaranteed. The better way to go? Private insurance.

I'm not talking Homeowners or any general crap like that. I use a blanket policy through a private insurer to cover all of my shipments. All they require is that the package require a signature. I can insure high amounts much more cost effectively, and more importantly, claims are handled quickly and painlessly and payment is in the mail in under one week. Does this insurance cost me? Yep, it ain't free. But it's a much better service than the USPS crap.

So don't be so down on folks who insure shipments with a carrier different from USPS. If a claim is needed, you'll be glad the seller is privately insured rather than just had a Post Office insurance label on it. Many high-end collectors use this type of insurance because it just works better and provides more safety. So tip: Next time you receive a package that was supposed to have been sent insured but doesn't have an insurance label on it, don't assume the seller was delinquent. He may be more on the ball than you think.

Would like to hear more about this...Can you provide some more details and the name of the insurance company that handles shipping insurance on your packages? :)
 
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