What else do you take with you?

TheLastDaze said:
the only way to design a system to fit 'your' needs, is to get out, get wet and see what works and doesn't work for you..and adjust it from there..
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I agree to a point, but seeing what else someone else has tossed in there might save me the hassle of having to figure it out the hard way.

For instance, the alcohol stove, I had never seen one before. And now I have one I made in my mess kit (and it nests oh so nicely) after having seen one on a similar thread. Prior to that, I didn't have any specific way to cook my stuff except for on an open fire.
 
I hear you, I too would go with the wood/alcohol stove and have been meaning to make one for a long time now, but I have to many pokers in the fire and already have two single burner stoves that suit me for the moment and I've had them for 7 yrs or more..

its great to see/hear everyone's trial and error i agree 100% but I'm telling you now, it will all change to suit you no matter what, you'll bring stuff you find you didn't need etc, or stuff you know you can use.. it happens to everyone for many outtings..

some minimalists will bring an sak and deal with it.. :eek: I'm far from being hardcore, and I like several blades with me.. I'm sick what can I say:D

btw, I have all kinds of family your way, ancestors type thang..
 
TheLastDaze said:
btw, I have all kinds of family your way, ancestors type thang..
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Funny, I am originally from NW OK. Woods county, near the sand dunes. Went to school at UCO and then OK State. Go Pokes!
 
Alcohol stoves are great, but they tend to rely on alcohol to work. That means taking along a fuel source, that can be expended or leak. I usually carry an alcohol stove, and on certain trips I do, but since I got that billy can, a fire is all I need, and I will have one of those anyway. I used to take hillbilly hobo can stoves too, for wood stoves, but enter the billy again. Not saying don't have one, but once you run out of fuel, they are just there to look at. I was carrying Everclear for fuel once, got set up, thought, man I sure would like to have a drink. Well, needless to say, I ran out of fuel quick. Now I use HEET, and I don't drink that, but it just extra weight. Loves me some billy can and canteen cup.

Moose
 
TheLastDaze said:
Yet !!:eek::D , I plan to ditch my stove once this last fuel cell expires.. I will then be forced to make my wood stove;)
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Nope, blindness and gut wretching pain/vomitting does not enhance my buzz nor my good time in the woods. I like Everclear, because it wasn't toxic and I kept my stove and my fuel in my mess kit. After I got sick once, I decided to seperate those two. Not bad sick, and it might have been the food, but I have eaten enough Romens to know that something was off in the taste. On long trips, I take my Coleman Sporter, and that thing is a tank. Cooks good though.

Moose
 
DerekH said:
No bag, no first aid kit, just a pile of knives and a slightly burnt log? Props to you sir. Much respect.
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that's my ultra-light setup! here's what i normally bring:

these i carry on me in my pants or jacket except the canteen and cup. if i'm going to gather firewood that's more than a few feet away from my camp site especially if i'm hiking by myself then i'm going to carry the canteen & cup with me.

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my maxpedition falcon ii and the contents. the klean kanteen is usually empty since i already have a 100 oz camelbak in the pack and the g.i. canteen filled with water. i bring it for another backup container for boiling water.

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i may or may not bring the hobo stove depending on my mood but since it's winter now i bring my alcohol stove kit at all times. in an emergency i'm not going to fuss around with looking for sticks and stuff to burn when i can have boiling water in under 10 min with it.

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the contents of the 0.75 liter pot:

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in the summer i'll leave the 5'x7' tarp, etc. at home unless i intend to use it on that hike. during the winter i'll bring it regardless.

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Who decorates your house? That green grid pattern would get old after a while.:D

Moose
 
moosez45 said:
Nope, blindness and gut wretching pain/vomitting does not enhance my buzz nor my good time in the woods. I like Everclear, because it wasn't toxic and I kept my stove and my fuel in my mess kit. After I got sick once, I decided to seperate those two. Not bad sick, and it might have been the food, but I have eaten enough Romens to know that something was off in the taste. On long trips, I take my Coleman Sporter, and that thing is a tank. Cooks good though.

Moose
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I am using Heet as well for mine. And yes, the fuel weighs something, but a 20 oz bottle of that isn't that much to toss in there, and the stove itself is next to nothing weight wise. A fair trade IMO. And the mess kit can be used in a regular fire. It's this one here:

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With some steel cable and some craftiness, it will work fine on a regular fire. Even without steel cable goodness, I think it would manage. The bigger pot holds 1 quart, which is plenty for me. Combined with my Guyot Backpacker that holds 1 quart, I am good to go I say. Plenty of room to cook my stew/soup/chili in the wild.

http://www.wylers.com/Gdetails/mrs_grass_home.aspx

That with some beef jerky mixed in tastes pretty darn good.
 
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DerekH said:
but a 20 oz bottle of that isn't that much to toss in there
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How many burns do you get outta that? I tried that on a 3 day trip and was cooking with wood by the end of day 2. I drink alot of tea, broth, and cider as well, so that may have depleted my fuel faster. I carry trioxane tabs as well, they are my "emergency" cook/heat source, just don't breath them.:barf:

Moose
 
mmm, is that fatwood in that kit? mmm.
 
moosez45 said:
Yes, in the bushcraft kit, right next to the jute twine, and bullion cubes. Bushy Crafty ness, AWAY!!!!!!!! Moose
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oh, ok. in compliance with the ESEE/WSS cooperative act, we can't show ANY pictures of, or talk about fatwood anymore. complete ban. sorry about that :cool: :p :jerkit:
 
moosez45 said:
Who decorates your house? That green grid pattern would get old after a while.:D

Moose
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heh. that's a self-healing cutting mat for using with exacto knife and stuff. i have one in black too which i often use as background as well.

if i had my way i'll cover the whole interior of the house in aluminum including furniture...no need to vacuum and stuff, just spray soapy water everywhere and rinse with a garden hose...done! :D
 
moosez45 said:
How many burns do you get outta that? I tried that on a 3 day trip and was cooking with wood by the end of day 2. I drink alot of tea, broth, and cider as well, so that may have depleted my fuel faster. I carry trioxane tabs as well, they are my "emergency" cook/heat source, just don't breath them.:barf:

Moose
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From what I am seeing with my stove, at about 1.5-2.0 oz I can cook from between 17-25ish minutes depending on the conditions. I am not using it for anything other than main meal though. If it was aluminum it would work better, but I love the looks of what I made, so I suffer through it, although today I tested it with a secondary heat source heating the stove itself (tea light candle) and it went to the shorter end of the spectrum, but it worked a lot better overall. I have another steel water bottle that I just toss right in the campfire in the morning for my tea though if I am having hot tea, otherwise I take some of the iced tea bags and toss those in with regular water, swish around for a bit and let sit, remove bags, then add my sugar.
 
Bladite said:
oh, ok. in compliance with the ESEE/WSS cooperative act, we can't show ANY pictures of, or talk about fatwood anymore. complete ban. sorry about that :cool: :p :jerkit:
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I won't show any fatwood, but I do have a small bag of shavings from some. As well as a nice mixture of magnesium, aluminum, and iron dust. Y'know, just in case.
 
OK, since there are so many pics you guys guilted me into making some more. Here is my little bag of evil, which goes in a bigger bag w/ other stuff...

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From compass on top left: Compass, Fenix CR123 Flashlight and diffuser, climbing accessory cord, Ace bandage, moleskin, gauze and tape, AMK FAK, wound FAK, sunscreen, compressed towels, spoon, bandanna, mosquito headnet, sun/safety glasses, headlamp, paracord, stuff sack, screw eyes, fishing kit, C/F DMT sharpener, pencil sharpener, Bic, Trioxane, Storm matches, Coghlans fire stick, electrical tape, duct tape, and ranger bands on a stick.

And here is the rest of my kit that goes most places with me in an Osprey day pack. I take this stuff in a different pack for overnighters and longer, along with my tent, bag, and pad.

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From top left, balaclava, MSR Dromedary bag, 1L, MSR Sweetwater filter, silnylon poncho, MSR Titan pot, spoon, spare batts, Pocket Rocket stove, fuel, TP and sanitizer in a plastic bag, MRE pb, crackers, and jelly, spare knife, handwarmer, matches, mini bic, and the pack.

I upgraded to the pack so I could carry extra bits of kit when needed, along with what is shown. Binocs, radios, camera, extra sweater, etc. It is also nice because it handles a load better than something strung over one shoulder.

I tend to keep all this together, but it is for multiple seasons and reasons, so parts of it could be trimmed if a person didn't want to carry it all. As it is, everything you see, in the pack, with a couple Mountain House, weighs 10lbs. If you need a fire, take a tool of some sort in there, for summer trips I usually carried a machete and a Bahco saw, though I quit carrying the saw after I broke it. I also take whatever water bottle I have with me at the time.

When I carried a smaller bag, I used an Aquamira filter top screwed on a Nalgene cantene to save space, and brought along the stuff in the small bag, along with the Bahco saw. Other than that, there wasn't a lot of room left for anything else, and when you did throw in binocs and a camera, the strap would start getting uncomfortable.
 
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bottle of rotgut bourbon, box of cigars, cheap floozy, canvas tarp, the dog, and a can of beans and lard.

oh an about 40 knives, plus an axe or three.
 
Bushman5 said:
bottle of rotgut bourbon, box of cigars, cheap floozy, canvas tarp, the dog, and a can of beans and lard.

oh an about 40 knives, plus an axe or three.
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some people just bring the lard and the floozy ;)
 
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