what ever happened to the old buck combat knife?

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Buddiiee

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I believe it was buck. I remember seeing it about 10 years ago maybe? maybe more. I was very interested in it, because it was very thick. I dont see em around anymore. They sort of look like the extrema ratio in a way.
http://www.italianblade.com/detail.aspx?ID=62

Like this one. I remember they were just REALLY thick pieces of steel, with handle slabs bolted on. they appeared to be really robust. anyone remember the name of those?
 
The Buck/Strider collaboration is more recent. I think I know which knife Buddiiee is speaking of. Seems to me they offered a tanto point version and a square/blunt version (dive) version of that knife. Hmmm... Let the research begin.
 
Was this knife that terrible hollow handle thing that they had back in the 1980s that looked to be inspired by the First Blood film? I looked at it and it was impossible to use. The little studs on the guard poked your fingers when you used it and left puncture wounds. A knife is not supposed to injure the one using it.
 
Ok Bud...

Here's the knife I initially thought of when I read your post. However, I don't believe this knife is much more than 10 years old, nor do I believe it was ever a combat blade, The Buck Intrepid:
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Here's the blade that FullerH is talking about. I think this was originally developed for the Navy SEALS. Impractical or not, I always thought is was cool. The Buck 184 Buckmaster:
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And finally, this Buck knife was made in the late 80s-early 90s. I This knife was actually sold to the military at one time. The Buck 188 M9 Bayonet:
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Are any of those the knife you were thinking of?
 
I knew you guys would come up with it. lol. Yea, the intrepid. That was it. What ever happened to that knife? It seems sort of a foreshadowing to all these slabsided, just stamp a piece of flatstock out and rivet some micarta on it and buy a blackhawk sheath and sell it kinda knives.

It seemed really tough. What do you guys think?
 
What's the purpose of the things on the guard of that one in the middle? I always wondered about that. I think they're removable.
 
When I first saw the Buckmasters, I thought they were some kind of half-assed grappling hook. You know for survival, yeah right. If they had designed it with the spikes pointing the other direction, w/ the blade - instead of into the user's hand/forearm, the spikes would be somewhat useful. But since they're not, the best thing to do is just unscrew them and put them back in the box with the papers. They're removable, atleast Buck made them unscrewable.. What were they thinking when they made the Buckmaster!?! It's ridiculous. :eek:
 
It was the eighties to be really "cool" you needed a Beretta 92F like Mel Gibson (lethal weapon), a franchi SPAS 12 shotgun (which was in practically every 80's action movie) and a hollow handled bowie/survival knife like Rambo (First Blood 1 and 2) and Swarzenegger (Commando)!lol. Those were my teenage years if it wasn't for the limited funds i probably would have ended up with a buckmaster myself. Luckily for me i waited and fluked into a cheap brand new Western Carbon steel bowie instead. Coleman owned Western for a while and then sold it. Hence they had to liquidate backstock with "Western-Coleman" on it. For a brief time they were very inexpensive. Really i think Buck was just following current trends. Anyone remember the old Aitor Jungle King hollow handle surival knives? Other than the Chris Reeves knives they were the only hollow handle knife i kinda liked.
Hmmm all this nostalgia made me dig out my old stash of cutlery shoppe catalogs from 85-95. Damn Buck Frontiersmans for 88$ !!!!!
 
Siggyhk said:
What's the purpose of the things on the guard of that one in the middle? I always wondered about that. I think they're removable.
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eel said:
When I first saw the Buckmasters, I thought they were some kind of half-assed grappling hook. You know for survival, yeah right. If they had designed it with the spikes pointing the other direction, w/ the blade - instead of into the user's hand/forearm, the spikes would be somewhat useful. But since they're not, the best thing to do is just unscrew them and put them back in the box with the papers. They're removable, atleast Buck made them unscrewable.. What were they thinking when they made the Buckmaster!?! It's ridiculous.
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Per http://www.buck-184.com/:
www.buck-184.com said:
The handguard is about 6mm thick, with both ends curving slightly towards the blade. Each end is drilled and tapped for a 2" (51mm) long, 10mm diameter "point" which is designed to allow the knife to be used as an anchor when a line is attached to the lanyard ring at the pommel.

Regarding the grappling hooks, these are described it the patent which CAN BE SEEN HERE: http://www.buck-184.com/library/us04622707.pdf. In brief, the patent discusses the attachment of the grapples to the quillon with sufficient strength to support a load of 600 pounds and reference is made to a casting line. With this said, it is generally accepted that using the knife as a grappling hook, which implies the act of tying a rope to the pommel and throwing the knife, could be very hazardous! In fact, the last of the BUCKMASTER knives came with small flyers saying that using the knife as a grappling hook would void the warranty. A better use of these hooks are as anchor pins where knife can be wedged in some rocks or the crotch of a tree and used with a securing line off the lanyard loop attached to the hollow handle cap/pommel.
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I really wanted the Buckmaster back in the day, but it was an expensive knife. Instead of saving another few months for the Buckmaster, i talked myself out of it and got the 188 instead. It was my very first 'real' knife. Although I used the 188 quite a bit in those earlier years, looking back I wish I could have just held out and saved for a few more months. Live an learn.
 
i would have killed for a buckmaster,back in the day.i would still love to have one,though i won't pay $350.00 for one.
 
Lol. yea, those hooks were for use as a grappling hook. I remember them being advertised as such. Though noone ever gets it on the first throw so... when you miss, and that thing come bouncin down torwards you, and cuts your head clean off your shoulders, youll wish you hadnt used a knife as a hook lol. its kinda funny actually lol. I remember the test that knife was put thru. I remember it failing quite a few of them. Oh well, ya cant win em all I guess.

And the old aitor jungle king...lol. I remember that. It was a spanish belly forward design wasnt it.. with a slingshot on the sheath too lol. good idea but... im not sure how effective it woulda been. during that time, in every book, especially the brigade quartermasters and us cav books, there was also those other two survival knives. they, and the aitors were always on the same page in every book. the one with the cast aluminum camouflage hollow handle, with finger grips on the front, with black blade, and the other hollow handled knife, that had a black handle, with a huge handguard steel strap on the handle, with silver blade. Ill never forget staring at those knives, wishing lol. those were the days.
 
Yep. The idea of throwing a knife some distance and using it as a grappling hook sounds pretty crazy today. Reading the pataent, I wondered if the designer really thought it was a good idea. To use the hooks in place on the knife and use it as an achor, as mentioned on the Buck 184 website, I can see. The anchor idea doesn't involve any dangerous throwing. Either way, you just might as well carry a knife and an achor or grappling hook. Using your one knife as either anchor or hook leaves you without a knife. I would think 'operators' wouldn't want to commit their amin balde to such a task.
 
Even just wedging it somewhere, to lower youself down from someplace scares me. ever tie a rope somewhere as a kid, and prepare to climb up? And give it a good tug or two to make sure its tight, and then have it fail, and come whipping down at your face? Now put a 3 pound knife at the end of that rope. NOT a situation i would want to be in lol. It was a nice idea from buck, but... back to the drawing board.
 
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