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mthall47 said:
Since 1998 your state has been a "shall issue" state so it should be possible to obtain a CCW license...of course, its possible to get one in NYC too, just not very probable
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If you re-read my post you will see that I used a knife to deter attack twice, once as a teenager, and once as a 28 year old. The point is, yes if someone is "out ot get you" then yeah, a gun would be in order, but as far as a random attack goes? No way. A knife is an excelent deterant. A few criminals have told me(don't ask I had a pretty crappy teenage existance in my sub-culture in which I had lots of aquantances that are in prison, or dead, from drugs(meth)that a person with a knife is akin to a person with a dog. They are looking for an easy score, not a fight. The criminal thought process is:" If I get cut, I go to hospital, cops are in hospital,BladeGoblin said:
I'm busted". Most won't bother in my experience. But if you shoot them? Then you open yourself up to criminal investigation yourself.
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BladeGoblin,
I've had to use a knife in defensive roles several times over the years. I've also been cut\stabbed on several occasions, and I can say that a folder carried on my off-side saved my life from gun-grab attempts in the past as well. In my experiences, a knife, when properly carried and employed (training, training, training!) can often beat a sidearm into action at conversational distances and such. I also carry a sidearm daily, and while it is a good option to have, it can't solve all your problems. Having a knife and a gun and also proper mindset and training is just a small part of the big picture of self-defense. If one's life is threatened by another, I feel there is much more to it than just "getting a gun" or "getting a scary knife". If the threat is viable, then one should consider taking a close look at every aspect of their life and adjust accordingly, not try to prokove the situation, but also have a planned response in place should the worst happen.
I've had to use a knife in defensive roles several times over the years. I've also been cut\stabbed on several occasions, and I can say that a folder carried on my off-side saved my life from gun-grab attempts in the past as well. In my experiences, a knife, when properly carried and employed (training, training, training!) can often beat a sidearm into action at conversational distances and such. I also carry a sidearm daily, and while it is a good option to have, it can't solve all your problems. Having a knife and a gun and also proper mindset and training is just a small part of the big picture of self-defense. If one's life is threatened by another, I feel there is much more to it than just "getting a gun" or "getting a scary knife". If the threat is viable, then one should consider taking a close look at every aspect of their life and adjust accordingly, not try to prokove the situation, but also have a planned response in place should the worst happen.
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marauder220 said:
collecter said:
Those little pocket sticks have no reach. The attacker would have to be practically on top of you for them to be useful. This isn't a good position to be in- at this point in the very bad situation I'd rather have something that could deliver as much severe injury as possible. Most likely if someone gets this close you've already lost.
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The crkt m16 comes in a variety of shapes and sizes- the m16-14 is a really big (sorry- just got home after 13 hour overnight side job- fuzzy- think its 4" or so)tanto with partial serration- they make a titanium handled version- but unless you are planning on bludgeoning someone to death with the handle (or are left handed and don't deal well with right-handed knives- the Ti version has clip holes drilled on both sides) then the regular aluminum handle is fine.
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The best I have seen in the Class you are talking about is the Spyderco Military in Plain Edge! If I could have only one folder for the rest of all time it would be the Military! S30V seems to be a good steel and the Knifes shape and weight are outstanding.
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Danzz, the keybaton is not used as a baton, make a fist around it with the end protruding below. With minimal training it's very effective.
A knife on the other hand, not enough training will most likely end up with it being used against it's owner.
Even if the victim manages to stab the attacker, it may not stop the attack.
Pepper spray or mace needs some training and practice but one shot to the face will most likey buy enough time to escape.
I cannot recommend that just anyone carries a knife expecting it to be their means of defense and showing a knife as a means to intimidate, I strongly disagree with. I think it's a very stupid thing to do as it can very easily be responded to with more aggression than would have occured otherwise.
Be carefull guys!
Collecter
A knife on the other hand, not enough training will most likely end up with it being used against it's owner.
Even if the victim manages to stab the attacker, it may not stop the attack.
Pepper spray or mace needs some training and practice but one shot to the face will most likey buy enough time to escape.
I cannot recommend that just anyone carries a knife expecting it to be their means of defense and showing a knife as a means to intimidate, I strongly disagree with. I think it's a very stupid thing to do as it can very easily be responded to with more aggression than would have occured otherwise.
Be carefull guys!
Collecter
I know how a keybaton is used. Yes its effective but its also a very much last resort thing. Last resort things should be as potentially lethal as possible. Many folders can be used as kubatons should the occasion arise.collecter said:
That's an interesting perspective. Many criminals running around already have their own weapons. They are dangerous even without using a victim's knife against him. And it suggests a solution- get some training with whatever you choose to carry.
"A knife on the other hand, not enough training will most likely end up with it being used against it's owner"
I very strongly DISAGREE with this statement.
Usually, you will hear this kind of comment from those who teach defensive fighting or from advocates of defensive fighting.
You see it repeated in knife and gun magazines all the time--that without "proper training" you will not be able to defend yourself, your weapon will be taken from you and used against you, etc...
This is simply not true.
If you don't believe me try this little test:
Get one untrained average Joe and give him a permanent marker.
Now let a "trained" person try to take it from him.
Tell the untrained guy to try and "cut" (mark) the trained guy as much as possible.
I'll bet the trained guy will probably get the marker away from the untrained guy, but I'll also bet he will have plenty of marks all over.
And had the marker been a knife, the trained guy would be a bloody mess.
Allen.
I very strongly DISAGREE with this statement.
Usually, you will hear this kind of comment from those who teach defensive fighting or from advocates of defensive fighting.
You see it repeated in knife and gun magazines all the time--that without "proper training" you will not be able to defend yourself, your weapon will be taken from you and used against you, etc...
This is simply not true.
If you don't believe me try this little test:
Get one untrained average Joe and give him a permanent marker.
Now let a "trained" person try to take it from him.
Tell the untrained guy to try and "cut" (mark) the trained guy as much as possible.
I'll bet the trained guy will probably get the marker away from the untrained guy, but I'll also bet he will have plenty of marks all over.
And had the marker been a knife, the trained guy would be a bloody mess.
Allen.
My favorite threatening knife would be a baseball bat! You can legally carry it anywhere, stash it in the closet or car truck without fear of the kids hurting themselves. I personally like the Hank Aaron model with the fat handle. You can stain it black if you want to look really stealthy!
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I'm going to forgo any advice about training or learning the fine art of hauling ass, and just address the knife question. Mid range price is a little hard to determine and I suspect it is around the $100 to $150 range. For me it is a tad bit higher due to my like of custom tacticals. Midrange for me would fall more in line with the Strider AR/GB series of knives. The AR is my daily carry and has been going on a month now. I was able to reposition the clip for deeper carry and the knife is my definate edc. As far as the psychology of the situation, I would think that the sound of a knife being opened and hearing a big "THUNK" as the blade locks up would be a deterrent to some people. I also think a blade that has the ability to reflect a little bit of light would also make a person think twice before going in, and I'm talking about a flash here and there as the knife opens and as the hand is moved a bit. Makes the person on the other end rethink their options. A wide blade also is an advantage as it gives the perception of the knife perhaps being bigger than it actually is. I don't know if any of what I've said is actually kosher or not but it seems to me that I would note those things and that they would make me think twice before engaging someone. In fact it would give me good practice in learning to haul my ASS!! 
