what gear do i need

Whats a stock removal? im like 5'7 and have farily good perservance and i must say i have pretty strong arms.
 
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Haypro.... I know you're young. We all understand being 11. Please read the sticky at the top. The reason I'm saying to do this is not only will you learn a lot but knifemakers have a language. It's a technical language, kinda like programming a computer. If you don't speak the language it makes it very hard to teach and learn.


Oh yeah, stock removal is using files/grinder to take a bar of steel and make it into a knife. We joke that there are 2 types of makers, stock removal and stock moval (smithing.)
 
Could start by finding or buying a used circular saw blade and cutting & shaping with a file.
 
haypro said:
Do you know what level of carbon they have?+i'll add my email adress Haypro@live.com
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Enough to be hardened satisfactorily. But I would look for ones where the blade tips are NOT soldered on but are actually just the blade metal. Not sure but ones with carbide tips may not be good enough steel to be hardened properly
 
69_knives said:
Enough to be hardened satisfactorily. But I would look for ones where the blade tips are NOT soldered on but are actually just the blade metal. Not sure but ones with carbide tips may not be good enough steel to be hardened properly
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Forget the sawblade steel. I've got plenty of steel in many different shapes, from bar stock to bearings to rings. I've got steel for either stock removal or forging. I'll gladly give you some to get you started. The only thing you'll really need is some files and a drill. I've got sandpaper you can have, all the materials for your first knife, etc., etc. As far as heat treatment goes, I'll help you heat treat it too, using my equipment. Just don't expect this to be a one day project. We'll get you started and then make up a set of instructions for you to follow at home. We'll work with your parents to learn what kind of tools he has to get you started, such as a vice, files, hacksaw, drill, etc.

My suggestion is to read all of the stickies at the top of this forum. Most of your questions will be answered in the stickies. We'll definitely keep you under $50 to start.
 
Haypro

A lot of people will give you a lot of help if you help yourself.

If you read the replies to all the other posts you started, you would know where to find a lot of information.

If you're not big on reading, there are some good videos available too.

Nothing beats learning in person. Take Scott up on his offer, but help yourself by reading all you can before your visit.
It will mean that you will understand what Scott shows you much better.
 
Will Leavitt said:
This is probably a regional difference but I'm not "dude" to an 11 year old child.
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I'm not "dude" to anyone. I'm Scott or Mr. Ickes. If you're a very close friend, then I'm Ickie.

Reminds me of the 10 year old across the street that happened to be walking just outside of our fence on the sidewalk one day and heard me call my wife "dollface". Well, he picked up on it and started calling her "dollface". I just looked at him the first time he said that in front of me and I told him, "Young man, you will call my wife "Mrs. Ickes", is that understood?" His response was "Yes Sir" and he's shown her due respect ever since.
 
I'd like to second AcridSaint and Steven's comments.

Will, I don't know how to explain the "dude" thing. :( I was born and raised about an hour from where "haypro" is listed, and I NEVER would have addressed an adult like that. We aren't instilled with the "ma'am, and sir" like folks down south, but I never got ANYTHING without "please" and "thank you."

We also weren't raised to just expect that people owed us anything either.

And don't think I'm being negative about the age either, I started this stuff at 12. :)

Haypro, I'll leave you with some advice my folks and grandparents always instilled in us kids:

-Keep your mouth quiet, your eyes and ears open, and you'll probably learn something.

-Find people who do work that you admire, be polite and helpful to them, and see if they can help you learn how they got where they are.

-Earn people's respect, don't just expect it.

A good attitude will take you a long way haypro.
 
Calm down, "dudes".

What we're seeing here is a generational difference manifesting itself as terminology for addressing someone.

I'm sure haypro did not mean it as a lack of respect. We all have our own ways of addressing people we do not personally know, and use of these words is a product of the generation we live in.

Some of us say "chap", some of us say "pal" or "buddy" too, but none automatically imply a lack of respect.
 
That is true tollund... but I think the "what stuff do you have that I can use" comments pushed people in a bad way. Did me anyway.

After reading all 17 of his posts, I'm leaning more towards a troll than an eleven year old. Guess we'll see.
 
Fair enough too - trolls and message boards go together like a horse and carriage, unfortunately. Let's hope he is legit because it's great to see people of such an age taking an interest in learning about making knives. I which I had of when I was 11!
 
I have to say that I'm a bit on the leery side, as well. Not too many 11-year-olds I know would try to use the word 'perseverance', or address someone he didn't know as 'dude'. And my 10-year-old is in the 90th percentile for height and weight and is nowhere near 5'7".
Not drawing conclusions....just leery.
We shall see.
-Mark
 
tollund said:
Calm down, "dudes".

What we're seeing here is a generational difference manifesting itself as terminology for addressing someone.

I'm sure haypro did not mean it as a lack of respect. We all have our own ways of addressing people we do not personally know, and use of these words is a product of the generation we live in.

Some of us say "chap", some of us say "pal" or "buddy" too, but none automatically imply a lack of respect.
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tollund, all of us come from different backgrounds, but courtesy in all of them would suggest addressing people as they expect to be addressed formally, not as you are used to among friends. When I get phone calls from people I don't know calling me by my first name, I hang up without saying a word.
 
I dont know what the big deal is to me dude means the same as like sir or guy p.s. i dont like being called a troll it's rude for someone who thinks there better than me.P.P.S MY REAL NAME IS HAYDEN P.P.P.S I DIDNT MEAN ANY DISRESPECT THATS JUST HOW I SAY THINGS.+dont think i'm trying to scam you because if i was i wouldnt bother showing up and i have to meet you in person anyway.
 
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This is my last post to anything you write, contrition is a valuable thing to learn.

1. I am sure you do not know what the big deal is. Someone that was raised to understand what the big deal is would have understood the affront.

2. Noone thinks we are better than you. You claim to be an 11 year old, who in here is not better than an 11 year old? You are exhibiting trollish behavior therefor expect for some people to think you are a troll.

3. "Just how you say things" was obviously offensive to some of us. I did not say anything to you that I have not said to other children. Raising your "internet" voice does not make your lack of respect for your elders and people spending their time to assist you any more attractive and frankly using this as an excuse shows your continued failure to understand what is being said to you. If we were speaking I would tell you to listen, not just hear.

4. Scam? noone here is concerned with a scam. I am not really concerned with you showing up in Alabama.

You fail to understand that people here are trying to impart things more important than some material goods, people are investing their knowledge and their time to help you in learning a craft. If you really are a troll you have cost us something more important than $50, you have wasted our time.

Hope you read and understand this. It is the last thing I will write to you.
 
Interesting, but I have 2 questions for you, Hayden. The first is, who is "maclaren27". The second is, have you read the last line on this (and every) Bladeforums page?

In accordance with the COPPA, no one under the age of 13 may join BladeForums.com
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Interesting, but I have 2 questions for you, Hayden. The first is, who is "maclaren27". The second is, have you read the last line on this (and every) Bladeforums page?

In accordance with the COPPA, no one under the age of 13 may join BladeForums.com
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And now it starts... or ends.

This was for Esav.
 
Hayden-

I also hope you're the real deal, as I think it's great to see young kids wanting to work with their hands.

But I stand by what I posted above.

I got started a year later than you, and did stock removal until I was about 22-23. At that point, I made some new friends that were very willing to help me get started in forging- Dave Evans, Bill Cottrell, Tom Ferry, and uncountable folks on the forums.... and then soon it grew to a HUGE list of folks.

I'm confident if you mind your p's and q's, you'll be able to find yourself in the same boat not too far down the road.

Mark and Scott's offers were extremely generous, and I highly recommend you take them up on it as there's no better way to learn than in person and by gaining relationships with knife folks. :)
 
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