What If? - A Survival Scenario

Blackdog

Blackdog

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OK, here's the scenario.

You've just signed up for a 1 week survival exercise. The exercise will be held in terrain that is typical of your area (mountains, swamp, plains, desert, etc). Upon arrival at the exercise, a basic survival pack will be issued to you which contains the following:
  • One days food rations
  • 25 matches
  • 100 yards of fishing line & 6 hooks
  • 2 canteens of water
  • a basic First-Aid kit
  • 2 12'X 12' plastic sheets
  • 50' of nylon rope
  • 1 small can of lubricating oil (for the gun & knives)
You can bring nothing else, with the exception of:
  • One Firearm and no more than 50 rounds of ammunition. Make, model and caliber are completely at your discretion.
  • Three knives. Any combination of fixed blades and/or folders, but NO Multitools. Again, makes, models and sizes are left to your discretion.
  • One sharpening system or combination of any 4 hones/stones.

Remember, you have to carry this stuff everywhere you go for the next week. With it you will have to provide your own food, shelter and protection from any predatory/dangerous animals that are native to your area (2 legged predators not included in this scenario). You must accomplish only one task, SURVIVE FOR ONE WEEK.

List your terrain type, the firearm and ammunition type, the three knives and the sharpener/stones you would show up with.

Blackdog

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338 Win magnum (me in mountains)
Busse #9
Randall #14
Spyderco Endura
Spyderco 204
 
Mountain Terrain
M16A3 (May be a stupid choice, but I wanted to keep the ammo load light).
Knives:
1) World War Khukuri: Wood Handle
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2) My Benchmade Automatic (serrated edge)
3) A stainless skinning knife of some sort.
4) My cheap white portable kitchen sharpener (it has crossed beams like a spyderco, but is more compact).

Craig.


 
California mountain and desert area.

Ruger MK2 6 7/8 Govt. 22; Light weight yet great velocity - Good for small game and ? very accurate.

WW2 Wood handle; Strong multi - use tool, has charka and karda as extra knife and sharpening tool
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4 Inch Maurice Carter fixed blade; Three layered steel blade, center section is 63+r Japanese white steel and outside section is 58r. General purpose, lighter weight than large knife with heavy sheath. His knives are the sharpest knives I own !!!

BM Ascent 3.9 Clip Point; Light, good steel.

Small neck knife, non tanto blade, fixed blade; light, for cleaning game.

Small Lansky sharpener; works well with everything, and sharpens quickly with no mistakes.

My philosophy of survival is to stay in the shade, don,t move much, look for water, take only one well placed shot for food, and keep warm!


wll



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Deciduous forest w/ rolling hills

.243 rifle w/ synthetic stock, SS action, Hornaday factory ammo - makes a good walking stick, or club. * Wicked over kill, a plain single shot .22LR would be fine in reality.

1. SN1/BAS style Khukuri

2. Spyderco Calypso Jr LTWT - SERRATED.

3. Bob Dozier Pro Skinner fixed blade

RED (fine) DMT - fold up pocket diamond stone. Chances are NONE of the above knives will need any kind of sharpening anyway....LOL.
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I would be eating like a king on chipmunks, red squirrels, sparrow, and bluegill or pumpkinseed sunfish. LOL
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Ray 'md2020'

 
Terrain is the wooded hills of Pennsylvania. (woodland and farmland)

Firearm: Ruger 77/22 stainless all weather model.

Knives: 15" HI Ang Kohla
Spyderco Wegner
Beck Master Woodsman

Sharpening System: Standard Lanskey kit

 
Texas Hill Country: Henry U.S. Survival Rifle (.22LR, 2.5 lbs)., Randall Model 1 w/ fine India stone in sheath, World War Khukuri with attached chakma (sharpener #2 + striker for flint [abundant locally] if matches get wet) and karda (knife # 3, excellent for skinning squirrels, eviscerating birds). Total weight <6 lbs with ammo.

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For the firearm I would choose a Savage 24c which is a .22lr barrel over a 20 gauge shot gun barrel. Weight is in the region 5lb to 6lb.
15 rnds .22lr
2 rifled deer slugs
2 #4 turkey loads
6 #6 field loads
10 #8 small game loads

This should be an ample ammo selection to keep you fat and happy. This set up would be effective for tree rats through deer or even a wild boar.

For knives I would choose:

A CS master hunter, which is a good game/general use knife.

A Spyderco light weight Calypso jr plain edge.

A GH World War Khukuri, with wood handle, for shelter construction and heavy chopping.

Your scenario dosen't call for any E+E, so I would find a nice sheltered area and sit tight.

For the sharpener, I would choose a Dmt diafold with the red and green sides.

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Terrain is the Everglades.

Firearm: Mossberg 500 Ghost Ring Synthtic (Parkerized). A tough gun that will "take a lickin' and keep on tickin'". Also extremely versatile for hunting and protection from things that bite (like Alligators).

Ammo: 5 Slugs, 10 rds of 000 buckshot and 35 rds of #4 birdshot. All would be standard 2 3/4" loads.

Knives: A SN-1 Khukuri, a Gerber Parabellum folder and a 3" Eye Brand folder (Stainless).

Sharpener: Standard Spyderco Sharpmaker with Speed Sleeves.

Heavier than Berks outfit but it's what I'm comfortable with and trust.

Blackdog



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Terrain: thin Eucalypt scrub/rolling hills.

Rifle: My Brno .22 BA (This is Australia, no dangerous animals and will take down any animal I will run into)

Knives: EDI Genesis I
Busse Basic #5
15in AK Khukuri

Small pocket stone and a Ceramic rod.
 
You know, a good air rifle like a Beeman or an RWS with 500 match pellets would keep you in food for a long time. Your chances of being attack by a preditor in the continental US is almost non-existant in most areas.
 
Blackdog,
If I had to be travelling in 'gator country, I wouldn't be carrying a .22 either!
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Berk
 
Okay,wooded hills/temperate climate. Marlin 795 .22lr carbine (stainless,fiberglass stock,lightweight,10rd. magazine) with sling. 50rds.Quickshoks or CCI Stingers, GH WWIII
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,Crisswell Barracuda II (5 1/2",ATS34 clip point sheath knife), Spydie Calypso Jr. Lightweight, and an EzLap "pen" pocket sharpener. Marcus
 
Blackdog: You woudn't need to hunt for food if you were lost in the everglades. For those non-floridians, you can actually eat the base of sawgrass for about 2 weeks and survive (albiet you'd be a bit thinner).

I personally tried to balance weight with function. I was considering a light 22 rifle, but opted for something a bit heavier in both punch and weight (the M16) in case I found a small deer. I also wanted something that could better protect against the most dangerous predator.

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4 legged predators aren't much of a concern here in PA. If you add the two legged type to the equation then I would have to reconsider firearm choices. Other possabilities are: Springfield Armory M6 Scout (.22lr/.410): Ruger 77/22 magnum; Rem. 870 or a Moss. 500 shotgun; AR15 w/ 22lr adaptor.
 
Blackdog, does it have to be a firearm? I would take my bamboo longbow with a dozen good arrows. If a firearm is required my Ruger MK2 22 cal with bull barrel would do just fine. Mountain or forest. I once liked in the desert. That would be hard for a week. Blade sharpener would be the little folding red DMT.

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I stay mostly in the New England States and, therein, mostly in Maine. For a week out, I take the following:

Firearm -- Browning S/S 20 gage, 6 shells with 00 buckshot (Protection from larger animals, mostly buck moose in heat), 20 shells with sixes (birds, squirrels, rabbits). The latter should take care of eating for a week.

Knives -- I take my WWII and the SpyderCo Military. The first will take care of making shelter and getting firewood, the latter for food preparation, and the karda, hmm...

Sharpener -- my pocket fine arkansas stone 1/4" X 1/4" X 3" should do fine for touchups (along with the chakma).

On your other list, I would trade the two canteens of water for one empty canteen and lightweight water purifier/filter.

Sing

AKTI #A000356

P.S. For the hell of it, went out to the woods today around noon with my HI WWII and my GH Mini Jungle. Constructed a nice "A" frame leanto in a little over an hour, stacked the inside with leaves, took a short nap, and left before it late afternoon. To make it more rain and windproof would probably require another 30 minutes and ? more softwood.

 
Terrain: Woods, fields, rolling hills, occasional mountains

Gun: CAR-15. It's not much on stopping power, but it can take out a deer, it's effective range is more than what I need for this terrain, and it's light weight.

Knives: GH WW3, Busse Steel Heart II, Simonich Cetan

Sharpeners: 2 stones--medium & fine Arkansas

I'll tell you something that's not on your list that I would not go without--a hand-held water filter. I'd give up one of the knives to take it instead.

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Just a thought: Does anybody remember Lance Corporal Rother (of the infamous Rother's Crossing at 29 Palms?). This guy was a road guard for an exercise in the stumps, and his Platoon Commander (and everybody else in the chain of command) forgot that he never got picked up by a vehicle as the endex convoy was returning to Camp Wilson Base.

The brave lad survived 4 days in the desert heat, and collapsed about 100 feet from a US Interstate. The point is - he died with empty canteens (he had two). They found his canteens filled with urine, his clothes spread along the final half click of his path. So anybody who accepts the Blackdog challenge in the desert would, as Joe MC suggested, be a real tough cookie.

Guess how they figured out that Rother was missing?

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