What if Mora used FRN?

[Blue Sky]

I’m not sure Mora handles are ABS. Their website is generally vague, but the specs for several models (garberg is one) list the handles as “polyamide”, which ABS is not. Nylon is a polyamide.

 

[Dav1]

I know I know but Joe X proved the Moras are almost indestructible, was it the Basic he couldn't break? I think the handles are absolutely fine especially for the price, I've batoned quite heavily (for the size of the Knife) with my heavy Companion with no issues what so ever.

 

[dogstar]

for most of us, the knife is perfectly serviceable. I’m not in love with the steel choice, the plastic handle materials or tang design, but I’m in love with the price and effectiveness. I’m not sure if I could dream up a better Mora.

Like you, and most of the people who responded to this thread, I think Moras are sufficient for what they are designed for. I said as much in post #1.
I guess people like me should stop using $10 models for bushcraft and step up to the $24 robust and HD models.

I know I know but Joe X proved the Moras are almost indestructible, was it the Basic he couldn't break? I think the handles are absolutely fine especially for the price, I've batoned quite heavily (for the size of the Knife) with my heavy Companion with no issues what so ever.

I watched a lot of Joe X videos. The companion and basic 511 were snapped easily, either by prying or whacking on a steel pole. I think because they are 2mm thick, they could not withstand these tests. However, I don't think this is representative of tasks you would actually do. The one that did not break was the Craftline Robust.
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The type of failure, which is possible during batoning (I feel this is a legitimate task), is the blade snapping, as in this image:

There are multiple cases of this happening. I get it, these are cheap Companions and 511s that fail this way. The Robust, Companion HD, Garberg, Bushcraft, would not have such failures because they are designed for this type of use.

I was just thinking if they had stiffer handles, maybe the blade would not flex as much, but probably better just to beef up the tang, like in this Hultafors GK. Again, I do believe the pricier Moras have different, more robust tang designs.

 

[Joseph Bandeko]

How about Mora do some blades in full textured Ti and Damasteel

 

[Deino]

I'm not 100% sure about Mora's handles, some say polypropylene, some say ABS, other say Nylon.

Even though they all have their pros and cons, but for your concern, neither of these materials, including FRN, matter when the main supporting structure is the tang itself, and neither materials has the raw strength of steel.

Similarly, slip joint with full back bar and lock back can be build lineless while still staying strong grace to the metal dorsal as the support.

Mora is thin, and the tang has less width than others knives, though it is more in line with the more traditional design, which was the reason this Scandinavian style popular in the first place, light cutting tool for advantures. I know some infanteer guys carry the regular Companion on loadout because of the weight. For your type of usage, a stronger knife is the way to go.

 

[Slice O Life]

Ive put my $10 mora companion through hell, and it still is totally fine with no real damage. They don’t really need FRN. I think it would be cool to offer a micarta or g10 option though, maybe with a higher price tag.

With the volume of knives mora produces though, I think their machines are pretty much designed to use the materials they are already using, and switching might be a bigger process than just putting some blocks of frn in.

 

[I'mSoSharp]

Think about your basic plastic Mora. I think the handle is polypropylene (recycling #5), correct me if I'm wrong. What if they made handles out of FRN? It has at least double the tensile strength of polypropylene. That might just make the ultimate Mora, without a big increase in cost. Imagine a FRN Companion, 511 or Kansbol.

Reasons why they won't do this:
The plastic handle works fine for intended use. I can see FRN being a good upgrade for their bushcraft models
- FRN is difficult to recycle
- It would take retooling of production lines

Anyway, just a fanciful thought from a Mora aficionado.

"The plastic handle works fine for intended use"...............

 

[BJE]

It feels like nylon to me, and if they state polyamide, that’s nylon. I have never broken one and I’m happy as they come for the price.

 

[Dav1]

Yes Dogstar I'm sure you are correct I remember 2 basic Moras (not Kansbol or Garberg) being very tough in his tests, I obviously got them wrong. Although even the thinner Moras are plenty tough if used correctly.

 

[Barbababa]

https://imgur.com/QEvT0Of

The Eldris is not a true full tang, but almost
I have made a couple of different builds with G-10 and Micarta. Fun projects

 

[Barbababa]

And this is how I made it (in a really quick pic)

https://imgur.com/jnHoNJZ

 

[not so dull]

I actually like the handle of my Companion HD, it is so tacky, but it would be interesting to try it with other handle materials.
As to batoning, I have never put my Mora through it, I use bigger, thicker and full tang knives to baton.

 

[Lyndino]

you're right, it likely won't happen... just as well imho, since I really dislike frn...

much rather see nice micarta since we're making fanciful thoughts

Is it true that micarta needs maintenance and can absorb water / blood whereas G10 is impervious and pretty much maintenance free?

 

[USMCPOP]

All I've seen for Morakniv handles are:
Wood
Polypropylene
Polypropylene with Thermoplastic elastomer (TPE) overmold
Polyamide (Frosts kitchen and butcher knives)

I don't care for some of the newer Mora tangs with the big cutouts intended for automated manufacturing. They weaken the tang and create a stress raiser where cracking can occur.

 

[dogstar]

All I've seen for Morakniv handles are:
Wood
Polypropylene
Polypropylene with Thermoplastic elastomer (TPE) overmold
Polyamide (Frosts kitchen and butcher knives)

I don't care for some of the newer Mora tangs with the big cutouts intended for automated manufacturing. They weaken the tang and create a stress raiser where cracking can occur.

I think the cutouts are for a non-slip handle/tang interface. I don't think they are for automated manufacturing. It's just as easy to punch a blank without the cutouts.

 

[EngrSorenson]

I think the cutouts are for a non-slip handle/tang interface. I don't think they are for automated manufacturing. It's just as easy to punch a blank without the cutouts.

You would be incorrect- it's both:

Mora companion vs Mora 511

Which one do you prefer ? I've used the search function and from what I can grasp, the two have rarely been compared on the forum.

www.bladeforums.com

 

[USMCPOP]

I think the cutouts are for a non-slip handle/tang interface. I don't think they are for automated manufacturing. It's just as easy to punch a blank without the cutouts.

Watch the Morakniv factory tour video and also see some various pictures of knife blades in process. Blades are stacked on pins which keep them aligned in some processes.

There is no need for such deep and oddly arranged cutouts as far as handle retention.

 

[dogstar]

You would be incorrect- it's both:

Mora companion vs Mora 511

Which one do you prefer ? I've used the search function and from what I can grasp, the two have rarely been compared on the forum.

www.bladeforums.com

Watch the Morakniv factory tour video and also see some various pictures of knife blades in process. Blades are stacked on pins which keep them aligned in some processes.

There is no need for such deep and oddly arranged cutouts as far as handle retention.

I stand corrected. Tack sa mycket.

 

[USMCPOP]

From an earlier thread in 2022:

The design of the 511 tang looks more convoluted than necessary for just mechanical connection purposes, but it's speculation either way.

Just figured I'd follow up- I wrote this email to the folks over at Mora:

Hello,

First, a sincere thank you for your great product- I wish you the greatest continued success.
Second, a question has come up on a knife forum, for which there was much speculation, but I was hoping you could answer definitively.
What is the purpose of the notches in the tang of the injection molded knives, such as the 511 basic or the Companion?

Thank you for your time,

Mora took the time to respond, which I think is pretty great for a company pumping out sub 100 dollar knives:

Hi Daniel,

The notches on the tang are intended for indexing (position) and fixation in different tools and blade carriers in the production. They also help to fix the blade in the handle after moulding.

Vänliga hälsningar / Best regards,

Thomas Eriksson
Product Specialist Morakniv®

 

[EngrSorenson]

From an earlier thread in 2022:


Just figured I'd follow up- I wrote this email to the folks over at Mora:



Mora took the time to respond, which I think is pretty great for a company pumping out sub 100 dollar knives:

Lol that’s the post I referenced. I’m that Daniel.