What is a Hand Made Knife?

We are talking about this in the Custom Knife forum.

There are blurred areas right now. The word custom is used two different ways in custom knives right now.

First, the literal definition of the word. The other refers to a category "custom knives". Sorry folks, it's been around for 30 years and it's here to stay.

Is something a custom knife? As a starting point I would check with the US Knifemakers Guild (or the Guild in your country). For instance, while Chris Reeve is a member of the Guild, he is not allowed to display any of his current line of knives (whether they have a custom clip or no clip (custom job).

The Sebenza is now considered a factory knife (true a very small and gifted factory, but a factory just the same).

Some one mentioned LDC as benchmade knife. No, they are not. While the knives may have some of the parts laser cut, the maker still grinds, drills, fits and assemble's each knife. THE MAKER, not a helper. This is a custom knife.

This is the main difference between a Reeve and say Carson, Crawford and Elishewtiz. Chris no longer does any work on the knife.

For my part it seems the majority of the people who are confused about what is and is not a custom knife are those who deal mostly in factory/production items.

This I think is due in large part to the fact that factories try and capatilize on the Custom aspect.

Go to the for sale section of this forum, you will see titles such as Emerson, Viele and Elishewitz for sale. Once you go there you find they are talking about a Benchmade, Spyderco and Benchmade knife.

Why is it they don't list it as such. Mostly, I belive they are trying to confuse the buyer with misleading information.

Afterall if you deal, collect and use Factory/production, why not tell people what it is up front. How stupid do you think people are? How many of you think it is a custom knife when you see a price tag of under $100? I would bet that there is not a member of this forum that for one minute would think that is a custom/handmade knife.

If you ever have a question about what is a custom knife, please feel free to contact me.



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While I agree on most points, I am confused by one:

"For my part it seems the majority of the people who are confused about what is and is not a custom knife are those who deal mostly in factory/production items."

I don't think any of the discussion in either thread has attempted to call production knives "custom." Rather, it has been about whether handmade knives are properly called "custom" when they are not made to customer specifications. The only discussion of production knives as "custom" has concerned work like that done by Frank Recupero or myself; replacing scales, adding fileowrk, and otherwise "customizing" factory pieces. This is a very different thing than confusing a production Elishewitz design with the maker's own work.

I agree that it is confusing to see production collaborations listed under the maker's name, but this is just a bad name-shortening convention and I don't think anyone either intends or expects to deceive. I also don't think that this has been important to the confusion we have been discussing in the two threads.

-Drew
 
Well, we have got off on to a different tandem.
I asked about hand made knives. Not if they were custom or not, but what, is concedered Hand Made?! Is a hand made knife a custom knife? I do not think they are the same.

When I listed those Paul Chen Tantos on the Auction I said they were hand made. Some one bid on them and then after asking me about them they said that I had misrepresented these knives to him and to everone by putting them in the hand made section of the Auction. After that, Spark changed the section to Custom Hand Made. Now, What is a Ccustom Hand Made Knife?? Is it a knife that Mike Allen makes just for you? Or is it a knife that Jerry Rados makes just for you, or he made for you to sell? The Section of the Auction site said Hand Made. So I listed what I call Hand Made Tantos By Paul Chen. He is a real person I have said hello to him at the Blade Show and thanked him for making such nice knives and swords that people like me can afford!

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