What is considered they most "exotic" super steel out there?

shqxk said:
Totally a different case here.

Peters and Bos are heat treat service provider while CPK is a knife brand them self. Every one know all CPK knives are heat treat by them.



This is make sense but don't you think there are many others maker that try to continuous improve their heat treatment too?

Last year I use gas oven to heat treat W2. This year I spent $5,000 on salt pot equipment and it give obviously better result. Do I need to add any word to my improved W2? We must have so much strange named steel selling around by this logic.

As I said this is nothing wrong. But it just not a good example of marketing.
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If you notice a measurable difference in the finished knife in regards to edge retention, toughness, or another aspect that a customer may value, then I would absolutely understand (and suggest) that it is stated, and used as a sales point.

If you are producing a higher quality product that folks can't see, why wouldn't you tell them? This isn't harming the consumer, you are giving them more information (and a better product) then they had prior. If anything, it is helping th customer by allowing them to make a more informed decision, and a possibly owning a higher caliber knife.

Don't sell yourself short. You invested in your business. If you can make a return on your investment, you owe it to yourself to do so.
 
shqxk said:
As much as I like Nathan Carothers himself and all of his excellent work.

I don't like the way he call his HT-ed steel D3V or O4V.

It's seems to be not an great way of marketing. There are many others maker that spent so much time on researching/equipment and try to optimized the heat treatment as best as they can but no need to make up a new name for there steel.

What more we should expect? Omega-1095? Alpha-AEB-L? Ultimate-M390?
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I disagree, I think it's a smart move. Heck Bob Dozier should probably change the name of the D2 he heat treats
 
The delta process really does make 3V better than it already is. Ive used it from peters heat treat, absolutely insane.
But thats getting off topic.

What i would consider an exotic steel is Vanax, nitrobe 77.
I never heard of nitrobe 77 till this week. And i hear is super expensive and expensive to heat treat.
Vanax has been discontinued and is ultra rare at this point. And the one time i did see it, very expensive for a small peice. I did see a small kitchen knife made out of it at a knife show though. It was really sweet. I have heard good performance reviews of Vanax and its corrosion resistance, edge holding, etc.
 
Well, there's steel forged from meteorites... a la Excalibur:rolleyes:. As for all the new(er) exotic steels coming out, I'm not sure there is any one in particular that significantly outperforms S30V.
 
I am rethinking the ultimate steel idea as all wrong. There are lots of great steels with different virtues and all worth appreciating and enjoying. I am currently taken with M4, but enjoy s110v and m390 (20cv,cts204p) and am eager to try maxamet.
 
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