What is the absolute cheapest a Strider SnG could be? Sebenza, etc

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withanx

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I was thinking about this today, and I thought it would be interesting to get opinions on this.

If I were to buy a completely brand new Strider SnG for $400 and hard use it every day, what is the absolute minimum it would ever be worth? Remember that Strider has a warranty that covers any damage to the knife caused by use for it's lifetime, so it will always be a functional blade to Strider standards. Let's imagine it is as scratched and dinged up as possible, but 100% Strider service approved functional and sharp.

My point here is that there is a certain amount of money you are basically using as a deposit when you purchase one of these knives. There is a price point in which the blade will never be worth less than that you can recoup by selling. I was just wondering how much of the purchase cost would be the absolute minimum "deposit" you could be returned by selling.

It'd be interesting to discuss this for other knives as well such as the CRK Sebenza, Hinderer XM-18, etc. to see which popular knife has the best "deposit" value.
 
Good question. I don't remember seeing a well used high end knife up for sale so I can't really say a price range for sure. It really depends on how much someone thinks it's worth. Some guys like well used knives with character and others will except nothing less of LNIB to mint condition. Most of the higher end knives hold their value pretty well tho.
 
It somewhat surprises me that nobody has hauled around an SnG or other "hard use" folding knife for a few years and really put it through it's paces, then decided to send it in for service and sell it. Seeing as you can get a pretty good condition used SnG for around ~$300, I would imagine the absolute lowest would be around half that at $150. I could imagine someone paying that for a beat up Strider as a user knife they wouldn't be afraid to scratch or ding. Maybe even higher than that? I'm not sure if I've ever seen a SnG sell for less than $250-275 though.
 
No high end knife should lose more than 25-30% value through use if the maker still says it's in good working order, and I'm guessing that number is a bit higher than reality.

In the case of a Hinderer, you could buy one at retail/maker price, use it, then make $100 profit selling it as a user on the aftermarket for the inflated prices people are willing to pay.
 
I agree with Grease on this one.
It isn't going to lose a whole lot of value as long as it's still in decent serviceable shape.
As long as it's taken care of, the use marks won't take down a whole lot of value.
As long as it's still solid and works as it should and isn't in horrid condition I would say it'll hold its value pretty well.

The same with a Sebenza or Hinderer.
 
Great question.... I think you can completely beat it to hell and the only thing that would make it worth less would be if, let's say the tip were to be broken or if there happened to be a roll or chip in the blades edge. Even then, you could probably send it back to the MFG for repair. With these 3 particular brands, I don't think they'll ever get below a certain threshold. (around 20% ish from the orig price) The worst case scenario would be that the blade and action are damaged.... If the blade or the scales have a few marks or small nicks (with the brands mentioned) I don't think It's a too big of a deal. I don't think cosmetic wear and tear would ever bring the prices down more than 20% (from what i've seen on the forum) Even with cosmetic wear and tear... It's just a spa trip away from being near new.

The only caveat being a financial emergency on the sellers part...
 
I've sold a strider sng and a small sebenza in super beat up shape for $280 each. The truth is that a knife that has been used and has considerable amount of wear, will NOT sell unless it's dirt cheap. You always hear people on here talking about how a nice knife should be used hard and wear is "character".

Well.... I don't see them buying knives that has a lot of wear. In fact, if you have one light mark on the knife it's already going to be a hard sell.
 
If it helps the discussion...I bought an sng that was very used, though no tip damage or blade chips and sharpening had not reduced the blade profile at all but one could tell it has long term use on it, all tight and functional at about 60% lockup...I was more than happy to pay 225 for it and would buy it again at that price....
 
The Logical One said:
I've sold a strider sng and a small sebenza in super beat up shape for $280 each. The truth is that a knife that has been used and has considerable amount of wear, will NOT sell unless it's dirt cheap. You always hear people on here talking about how a nice knife should be used hard and wear is "character".

Well.... I don't see them buying knives that has a lot of wear. In fact, if you have one light mark on the knife it's already going to be a hard sell.
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I agree with this statement.I see a lot of people saying 20% off a beater,but in reality it's more like 50%+.I usually sell my used knives with light scuffs or dings on the clip,maybe a resharpened edge & very light wear marks.I'll knock off 25% & it'll sit on the exchange for weeks until I lower the price or just withdraw it out of frustration.
 
Certainly makes sense to buy your beaters used then. If you can buy a good condition SnG for ~$320 used, and in the worst possible shape it would sell for $280, a $40 loss for years of hard use with a great knife seems like a steal. Just don't lose it, or you'd be out the whole bundle.
 
I am not sure about strider but hinderer and crk have a spa service to take a user and make it close to new again. I think the price is $35-65 or something. That being the case, if I were to sell my hinderer or crk after years of use, I would definitely pay for this service and get the "fresh from the spa" price out of it. Which will probably be within 10% of what I paid for it. Including the payment for service, I will lose 20-25% of original purchase price.
 
5 or 6 years ago I bought a used PT for about $190. I used it hard for that time, and then decided to flip it to try something else just a few weeks ago. After some low-ball offers, a fine fellow here traded me his newish small Sebenza 21 for it. I suspect that the lowest you would ever see for a well-used Sebenza or Strider (assuming the warranty hadn't been violated) would be about $250.

DJK
 
expwmbat said:
5 or 6 years ago I.......... (assuming the warranty hadn't been violated) would be about $250.

DJK
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This is the key. A serviceable knife still covered by the warranty will hold its value. I am only talking about crk, hinderer, strider etc.
 
expwmbat said:
5 or 6 years ago I bought a used PT for about $190. I used it hard for that time, and then decided to flip it to try something else just a few weeks ago. After some low-ball offers, a fine fellow here traded me his newish small Sebenza 21 for it. I suspect that the lowest you would ever see for a well-used Sebenza or Strider (assuming the warranty hadn't been violated) would be about $250.

DJK
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Awesome, I didn't realize CRK and Hinderer did refinishing as part of their services. I know Strider used to do refinishing, but they no longer provide any cosmetic services.
 
MRaymond said:
This is the key. A serviceable knife still covered by the warranty will hold its value. I am only talking about crk, hinderer, strider etc.
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What exactly defines a "serviceable knife"? I thought Strider has a warranty that will supposedly fix or replace almost anything. Is there a point where they will say that the knife is beyond repair and no longer under warranty?
 
withanx said:
What exactly defines a "serviceable knife"? I thought Strider has a warranty that will supposedly fix or replace almost anything. Is there a point where they will say that the knife is beyond repair and no longer under warranty?
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With CRK, customizations void the warranty. With Strider they do not, however, they will charge you to put it back to factory specs, and likely will require that you do so when sending it in.

DJK
 
MRaymond said:
This is the key. A serviceable knife still covered by the warranty will hold its value. I am only talking about crk, hinderer, strider etc.
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I'll throw out a twist. With a knife by a "name" maker, the "name" is a portion of the value. If the "name" is besmirched/damaged deeply enough, I would argue that that the "named" knife's value could plummet below the value of the raw materials in the knife.

(I am not implying anything about any of the makers named in this thread.)
 
Depends on how long you have it also. I had a small 1999 Regular BG-42 Sebenza refurbished, and it would likely bring more than what it cost in 1999. If I sold it that is, which I won't.

I never factor this in my knife buying though, and just buy what I like.
 
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