What is the best stablilizing agent?

IG,

I got that from the Loctite instructions. Don't know why thay say that since it is water soluble, but that's what it said.

From some of my research this heat activated idea sounds great. The trouble with B72 doesn't seem to be getting into the wood. It's that it starts to migrate to the surface as it dries. So the center doesn't have any or as much resin. The loctite stuff might lock in as it warms up outside in.

Gee I hope we can find a source.

If I had confirmation here that it doesn't yellow wood, I'd chip in for one of those 4 gallons.

Steve
 
For the Resinol 90C you need to talk to Craig Ryan. His phone number is 1-800-842-0041 extension 1099. Or you can call 1-800-323-5106, hit choice #1, then enter mail box #1099. Craig is out of the office now, but will answer messages that you leave.
I have not yet recieved the Resinol 90C yet, I just ordered today, but as soon as I get it and have a chance to try it out I will, and will let everyone know how it works for me.
As far as the cost , $280.00 for four gallons, I have been spending over $200.00 at least twice a year to have the stabilizing companies stabilize my wood. I have gotten more than one shipment back that for me was unsatisfactory. Thats one reason I want to try it myself. Another reason is that I can experiment with Dyes.
My understanding is that Resinol 90C can be heated in a oven and does not need to be boiled.
Another reason I like the idea of 90C is that it was made for stabilization purposes its consistancy is like water and it does not need to be thinned before using.
I'll write some more when I learn some more. Tom Lewis
 
I'd be interested to know if anyone used the loctite stabiliser and would share his experience.

Thanks,
Danny
 
I have conducted experiments with Resinol (through a third party that uses a lot of it) on mammoth ivory. After much skepticism, I have concluded that it does achieve penetration. Unfortunately, this was proven by disicoloration that ran through a couple of the pieces (3/16 thick). I did torture test the pieces, however and found that they would still warp slightly if, for instanance, left in a gas oven (tuned off) for a long time. (This, incidentally will cause untreated woods to warp pretty badly too.)
There is another opiton I'm considering and that is "penetrating epoxy" used for treating/killing dry rot in wood (i.e. Rot Doctor). (I have a couple gallons). It's very, very thin, designed to get way into the wood and takes a long time to harden.
I tried just brushing some onto a piece of walrus ivory (tusk tip) and have left it outside in the weather for many months now without visible effect. I need to try it on a precision flat piece to check for warpage, but obviously the way to go would be vacuum/pressure chamber.
 
The reason I asked is because I'm looking for a wood stabiliser for something different than you all are using it for but stumbled on this thread when I googled

I am a bamboo fly rod maker and am looking for a substitute for Nelsonite 30B02
Nelsonite is used by most makers but I can not seem to find a source for this in europe and preferably the Netherlands.

I am looking for something that can be buffed afterwards.

I did find a source for Resinol 90C and B72.

Can either of these be compared with Nelsonite 30B02?
Or does someone know under what name Nelsonite is sold in Europe?

Thanks
 
I use the min wax hardener. Check the contents it has a lot of acetone in it. I mix 1/4 cup of Acryloid B72 in with the wood hardener. Soak under vacuum for 3 days. Then reverse the tube and put pressure on for a day. I use a brake bleeder vacuum pump. I use this mix to stop wood growth or shrinkage. Works well. It does not fill pores very good. I use ca for that. But thats another story. Take Care
TJ
 
These guys have another product available, I haven't used it but it sounds pretty good.

http://cuecomponents.com/nelsonite.html

Edit: This is not nelsonite, though the link says so, it is actually something they call 'resolute'. According to them its a blend of mineral spirits and naptha (a whole lot less naptha than nelsonite though).
 
I wrote them to ask if it is available in europe but I'm affraid not.
I contacted Loctite this morning about resinol 90C and it is not distributed to the Netherlands because of environmental laws. Same reason for Nelsonite

Which leaves me with B72 wich is available here in the Netherlands but I'm not sure about this product.

I tried finding information here on the forum but I read diverse responses.

When using this does it harden to a finish which can be buffed?
I would appreciate it if you would share your experiences.

Thanks,
Danny
 
Dedoo said:
I wrote them to ask if it is available in europe but I'm affraid not.
I contacted Loctite this morning about resinol 90C and it is not distributed to the Netherlands because of environmental laws. Same reason for Nelsonite

Which leaves me with B72 wich is available here in the Netherlands but I'm not sure about this product.

I tried finding information here on the forum but I read diverse responses.

When using this does it harden to a finish which can be buffed?
I would appreciate it if you would share your experiences.

Thanks,
Danny
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Hi Danny, I'm from the Netherlands as well.
I am also looking for an agent to stabilise wood.
Can you tell me products available in Holland? What is the dutch word to ask for?
"Houtharder"?
Thnx.
 
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