What is the govt. doing???

mamav

mamav

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Does this happen all over or is Nebraska really STUPID!!!???

A juvenile boy is in treatment for sexual assault and while there is caught stealing a speaker ($750) and CD's out of cars and other speakers out of cars and drinking and underage smoking. They report the situation, set a court date and this kid is let off with NOTHING!!! This is about the 5th time he has broken his "contract" and still he gets no punishment. Am I missing something here or do the courts actually want criminals on the streets. If they get away with everything they think they can continue in their evil ways and it's OK. There is no accountability at all for these kids in the system. They think they are getting over on everyone.

As a victim (surviving victim that is)I find this appalling! Where is the justice. They don't need more therapy, they need a boot camp for offending kids and they need to have it worked out of there systems if possible.

I give up, I'm moving to Nepal. Their crime rate is low. DUH!! Everyone has a khuk on there belt.

Any thoughts out there?:rolleyes:
 
The day after my graduation day in High School, the local news reported the body of a man found in a local creek. The man was apparently first shot, the stabbed a number of times, then beaten, and left in the creek to die. Autopsy reports, the cause of death was aphixiation, due to severe throat trauma from the beating. A short while later, found out that this man who was killed, was a friend who just the day before invited me to his graduation party. The killers were a groups of kids, 2 brothers (ages 15-16), a 17 year old, and a 18 year old. The reason they killed him, was because he was testifying against the 2 brothers in a drug case (if found guilty the two brothers would have only gotten a few months). What was the sentence of these people for murdering someone in such a brutal fashion? Both brothers, after pleading guilty, received 4 years juevenille detention, the 17 year old got 8 years prison, the 18 year old (for driving them there) got 10 years. 4 years in juevenille hall for murdering a man. :barf:
 
Originally posted by mamav
Does this happen all over?
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Unfortunately yes.:(
It happens all over anymore, even in the rural areas where kids were once really responsible young people.

Or is Nebraska really STUPID!!!???
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Unfortunately yes.:(
Gin as you can see a little from my avatar I'm not only an ndn, but look like what many people sterotype an ndn as looking like even when I'm not in my regalia.
There's a little prejudice here in Oklahoma, sometimes it can be so severe that some ndn is killed, some people like to pick on the weak, but it isn't usually displayed as blatantly as I experienced in Nebraska. And it seems the closer one gets to South Dakota the worse it gets.
Ndns are routinely followed around in WalMarts and other stores in that part of the country and when they stop and look at something like a CD Player or something equally expensive are told,
"Move along. You can't afford that anyway so there's no use in looking."
I experienced being followed in a NAPA Auto Parts Store in some little town in Nebraska when I was looking for a HELP RACK to see if they had any windshield wiper bushings for my old Dodge Aspen.
When I spotted them they were marked as Chrysler and I said, "Just what I need!!!!"
The kid who followed close on my heels said, "But that's for a Chrysler, not a Dodge."
I asked him who in the hell he thought made the Dodge line of cars.:)
Then I was looking for a "T" type hose fitting for my windshield washers in a rather large box of assorted fittings as he hovered over me.
I found one in an extended "Y" shape and again was told it wouldn't work because it wasn't like the original.
At that point I said, "Sonny, I may be a dumb ndn but I'm not a stupid one. The damned car isn't gona know the difference if it doesn't look the same or not."
I was glad to get out of there!!!!

Any thoughts out there?:rolleyes:
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Yep, our system is broke.:(
The powers that be doesn't realize that some kids need more discipline than others.
I once took off my flip-flop and spanked my young son in the supermarket we were shopping at for running around the store. He knew better and the sound the flip-flops made was a lot worse than the bite.
If I was to do something like that today I would be arrested for child abuse.
A helluva lot of people need to mind there own dayumed business and leave the child rearing to the parents.
There's not enough that care anymore anyway and the system has tied their hands.:grumpy: :mad:
 
Remember years ago, that American teenager got caned for vandalizing cars in Singapore? Everyone said, "How cruel and inhumane." After he got back to Ohio, he vandalized some more cars, and everyone said,"See how that violence didn't acomplish anything." I noticed that he didn't spray paint any more cars in Singapore though. Maybe those folks know something that we forgot. Don't pay any attention to me, just rambling.
 
I live in NJ, where my uncle drives a school bus for a local church's daycare. The state Division of Youth & Family Services (DYFS, aka Doofus) issued statements telling the caretakers that they cannot tell a child "Slow down! Stop Running!" because it may hurt their feelings. Instead, the state sanctioned method is to say "Walk, feet! Feet are for walking." And no, I am not kidding.
They are also not allowed to punish misbehaving children by taking away their playtime outside. No "Time-outs" are allowed either.
I know my generation (X) is spoiled, but I am loathe to think what these children will grow up to be, with no rules and no consequences for misbehavior.
 
Yes Indeed!They know they will be punished over there!

Yvsa, you must have been in North Platte. Eric can't even go for a walk around town anymore by himself because the cops follow him and even stop and ID him. His only crime is long hair and a beard.

I remember one drug incident involving 9 men and 1 woman. The ring leader was white and he only got 1 year in the county jail. 2 others were black. They went to the state pen for 4 and 5 years. I don't remember the rest. :barf: :barf:
 
Originally posted by ed tank
Remember years ago, that American teenager got caned for vandalizing cars in Singapore? Everyone said, "How cruel and inhumane." After he got back to Ohio, he vandalized some more cars, and everyone said,"See how that violence didn't acomplish anything." I noticed that he didn't spray paint any more cars in Singapore though. Maybe those folks know something that we forgot. Don't pay any attention to me, just rambling.
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A rattan cane can change one's mind about perpetrating vandalism. :p
 
It has all gone crazy and it'a another reason I'm glad that I'm as old as I am. It's only going to get worse and I don't want to see it.

If I hadn't had the discipline, including my regular trips to the principal's office for a spanking with a nice wood paddle about two feel long, and the 13 weeks of very tough boot camp of 50+ years ago at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center, I'd probably have ended up in Alcatraz.

If a principal spanked my kid for misbehavior I'd go down and thank him personally and if I saw a DI beat the $hit out of a smarta$$ recruit I'd go over and offer to buy him a bottle of Heineken. But that's me. I'm an old dinosaur and not a PC dinosaur at that.
 
"Wouldn't you like to be 21 again so you could do all the things that you know about now". You have got to be kidding. I wouldn't want to start over and go through all of that misery again for nothing in this world.

It would not do for me to raise 7 kids now. I would spend too much time in jail. There never was anything close to abuse in my house but there were a few tanned rears and, they knew they had it coming.

My wife is the one that they should have teaded lightly with. They made the mistake of trying to run over her one too many time on different occasions which was a very bad mistake to make. She was like a time bomb. It takes a lot to get here mad enough to whip a rear but when she gets started, don't even get in the way. When she gets that mad, I grab me a beer and go to the back yard picnic table and wait till she has cooled down before I go back in the house. I guess now days we would both be setting in the clink.:) :D
 
Life is all about change. One just has to adapt and go on. There is no other choice except dying. :(
 
But, it sure would be nice to see things changing for the better instead of the way things are going now.
 
of today's system. The system warehouses the kids (daycare) and warehouses the old (Nursing homes/assisted living). This causes a dissolution of the family unit, and raises a bunch of folk who are isolated and feeling alone. Add an automatic weapoon and some angst--and ya got Columbine. This is par for the new course.

the system cares little for family or tribe. These things don't contribute to the GNP. The system wants us to be a bunch of system- dependent stooges, scraping for a living in their factories and businesses, taking their legal speed-type drugs with a dose of productive stress, then dying quietly behind closed doors.



On the topic of child discipline--somebody's gotta do it, and If some dude came up to me and gave me sh1t fer it, I'd add some more assault charges b4 they hauled me off...and I'd reely enjoy administering that second beating.

Disciplinne is best backed up with love and explanation. We'd all agree that whapping a kid for pleasure is wrong. A few pats on the bum tho, backed up with an explanation--that is a different matter.

Keith
 
Worst feeling in the world is having to tan the rear end of one of these rug rats, but sometimes that is what it takes & you gotta just bite the bullet & do it. Had to get the 11 year olds' attention last night......think it hurts me worse than it does them, but better me now than them growing up without any sense of discipline & responsibility.
 
Semper Fi; "Life is change, how it differs from the rocks." ?? (obscure quote) or how about, "he who is not busy being born is busy dying."


Mamav- what I really find interesting is the driver got 10, the murderers 4.

Nice photo btw- I've always been fond of psychotic women.



munk
 
It's sad but the lack of discipline coupled with the PC way of never speaking negatively to a child has created people who don't take resposibility for thier actions and could care less about anybody else. Sad.
 
It's called enabling. When the collateral damage in Iraq is compared to the atrocities of Saddam you know the world wide value system is falling apart.

When honest men are burdened with regulation and restrictions about access to firearms, but criminals naturally aren't, and then guns are blamed for criminal behavior, you know wrong thinking is winning.

When we think too hard about what we'd like to see rather than what is there.


munk
 
If we just write it out of the textbooks, does that mean it didn't happen? Indeed change does happen. But shouldn't it be for the better? By not confronting bad behavior are we not enabling the offender?
 
When I went thru bookcamp I was tossed into a company along with 16 members of a Philadelphia street gang. The guys where there by choice and this was the choice -- judge said jail or military service. Nasty guys all -- switchblades, greasy DA haircuts, smarta$$es, black leather jacket bullies of the worst order. All but one made it thru bootcamp and these guys came out of it gentlemen and good guys -- total transformation that some folks might consider a miracle. That's what 13 short weeks of very harsh but fair discipline did.
 
"If a principal spanked my kid for misbehavior I'd go down and thank him personally"

But don't forget Bill, the decline of society and the human species has affected people of all ages.

True, it's likely that the kid was acting up and had the punishment coming, but it's just as likely that the school principal is a sadist, pedophile, or some other kind of wacko and your kid is a victim.
 
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