What is the SAR5 exactly

[Jaxx]

It is a terrible, horrible, hideous mistake... According to the Bossman, anyway! Me, I just keep thinkin'... Why aren't MY mistakes so well received???

I like 'em. :thumbup:

 

[Heavy]

It is a terrible, horrible, hideous mistake... According to the Bossman, anyway! Me, I just keep thinkin'... Why aren't MY mistakes so well received???

I like 'em. :thumbup:

Amen.

AND!!!

Amen.

 

[Heavy]

I thought the same thing... And I have accidentally slipped and were it not for a finger guard I might have cut myself pretty bad... but from my understanding... A true wilderness knife isn't a tool that you're gonna find yourself stabbing with... A survival knife... maybe... but the two are different. A true wilderness knife will find itself doing bush work, cleaning game, and making traps and snares and such... so there will never be a real need to stab. I've enver found that a guard keeps a knife from performing the tasks adequately... but outdoorsman much more skilled and long in the tooth than I say that a knife without such makes for a better TOOL... not weapon... But Tool. So I think the SAR5 might just be designed well as a bush tool... but it would probably make a poor weapon. For the very reason you mentioned... I have pleanty of knives that could double as a weapon if need be (Of course I prefer a gun LOL) but the SAR5 I think is gonna fall into that wilderness tool only category. That's the main reason I asked what it's design purpose was because from the first time I saw it... I thought... Bushcraft Knife.

Right.

 

[Guyon]

I thought the same thing... And I have accidentally slipped and were it not for a finger guard I might have cut myself pretty bad... but from my understanding... A true wilderness knife isn't a tool that you're gonna find yourself stabbing with... A survival knife... maybe... but the two are different. A true wilderness knife will find itself doing bush work, cleaning game, and making traps and snares and such... so there will never be a real need to stab. I've enver found that a guard keeps a knife from performing the tasks adequately... but outdoorsman much more skilled and long in the tooth than I say that a knife without such makes for a better TOOL... not weapon... But Tool. So I think the SAR5 might just be designed well as a bush tool... but it would probably make a poor weapon. For the very reason you mentioned... I have pleanty of knives that could double as a weapon if need be (Of course I prefer a gun LOL) but the SAR5 I think is gonna fall into that wilderness tool only category. That's the main reason I asked what it's design purpose was because from the first time I saw it... I thought... Bushcraft Knife.

I've seen a lot of bushcraft blades in this style; heck even Spyderco is coming out with one. But as a hunter, I've never really understood it entirely. If a bushcraft blade is to be an all-around knife, I still appreciate a guard when it comes to cleaning game, particularly big game. With bloody hands, a slip on a handle can result in cut fingers, and that's not good when you're out in the wilderness.

 

[daniel4572]

Wasnt crazy about the handle myself so I modded it. Heres what it looks like now and it great. Love the shape and length of the blade.

 

[Last Visible Canary]

I've seen a lot of bushcraft blades in this style; heck even Spyderco is coming out with one. But as a hunter, I've never really understood it entirely. If a bushcraft blade is to be an all-around knife, I still appreciate a guard when it comes to cleaning game, particularly big game. With bloody hands, a slip on a handle can result in cut fingers, and that's not good when you're out in the wilderness.

I've always held that you need to be able to work with a knife greased up, and blind. preferably be able to do both at once. if you have to look at the tip to know where it is, something is wrong. if the edge will cut you if you make a slight mistake with your grip, something is wrong.

but then again, I still don't feel safe using double bit axes, but I completely understand why they are a good thing...

as far as the comments about a bushcraft being specialized for lighter wood work, things like building snares and traps and skinning - the sar5 is designed to take heavy batoning. While it may have some of the features of a knife that could do that kind of task well - it is not built to be that kind of knife.

if you want something thats exceptionally well at fine cutting tasks you have two options - back it up with a knife that has a much, much, MUCH thinner edge ala the boney active duty at 1/8" thick, rc60-62, and w/ an edge thickness of sub 0.020":

or send a sar5 into the custom shop and have the thing cut in half geometry wise.

I vote customizing a skeleton key to be 1/16" thick and full flat

 

[Jerry Busse]

What is the SAR5 exactly?

Exactly?. . . . . . It's a tribute to my liver!!!!. . . . A thorn in my side. . . Proof that I drink too much. . . . A never-ending nightmare that won't end!!!!. . .

I need to drink!:thumbup:

Jerry

 

[RoyalM]

So you see the SAR5 while being a much loved knife for many is also a glimpse of what Jerry throws in the bin.

My question is: What else could be lurking in the infi bin or do other unwanted blades just get melted down?

There could be untold treasures for those of us willing to go with a design the boss man dislikes.

I'm almost as interested in failed designs as I am in ones that go to production. Seeing both sides of the Busse coin so to speak.

 

[Steel-Junky]

Exactly?. . . . . . It's a tribute to my liver!!!!. . . . A thorn in my side. . . Proof that I drink too much. . . . A never-ending nightmare that won't end!!!!. . .

I need to drink!:thumbup:

Jerry

LOL... Well that's just wrong on a bunch of levels. I think I need a drink now... and it's only 8 in the morning.

 

[Steel-Junky]

I've seen a lot of bushcraft blades in this style; heck even Spyderco is coming out with one. But as a hunter, I've never really understood it entirely. If a bushcraft blade is to be an all-around knife, I still appreciate a guard when it comes to cleaning game, particularly big game. With bloody hands, a slip on a handle can result in cut fingers, and that's not good when you're out in the wilderness.

I agree... the thought is that the guardless knife lends itself to carving wood into useful shapes a lot better than one that has a guard... Now I'm thinking the SAR5 is gonna be a little too beefy to do this and excel at it. But We'll see... there's lots of BC knives out there that are 3/16ths.

 

[Steel-Junky]

So you see the SAR5 while being a much loved knife for many is also a glimpse of what Jerry throws in the bin.

My question is: What else could be lurking in the infi bin or do other unwanted blades just get melted down?

There could be untold treasures for those of us willing to go with a design the boss man dislikes.

I'm almost as interested in failed designs as I am in ones that go to production. Seeing both sides of the Busse coin so to speak.

I know I want a Battle Mistress with a 15" blade on it... always wanted one.

 

[Ken44]

Exactly?. . . . . . It's a tribute to my liver!!!!. . . . A thorn in my side. . . Proof that I drink too much. . . . A never-ending nightmare that won't end!!!!. . .

I need to drink!:thumbup:

Jerry

I'm going with this one

 

[JWBirch]

If you're working with something and think that your hand could slip up onto the edge, you could just slip a cord loop through the first tube fastener for your forefinger. However far the loop lets your finger go is all the further your hand can go. Use strong cord...

In the woods anyway.

 

[xaman]

One more pic:

The guardless knife presents some difficulty for retention in leather, unless you want a deep pouch, which never appealed to me...

 

[Guyon]

Eli, when you quitting your day job to take up leather work? Great stuff. :thumbup:

 

[xaman]

Eli, when you quitting your day job to take up leather work? Great stuff. :thumbup:

When I'm ready to start making about 3.25/hour --- that's about what i would make (i'm VERY slow...)

thanks for the compliments though :thumbup: