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what is this?
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Without more info, based on the picture, I'd say a damascus fixed blade knife.

Better pics, tang stamps or etchings would help, where ya got it could help to but based on your info about the knifeand that pic alone, I can't tell much.
 
judging by the terrible cuts and stitching on the sheath, with what appears to be damascus and bone with no name signed, and the very generic file work...

a cheap knife from India or Pakistan.

I apologize if that's someone's actual handiwork....
 
100eyes said:
judging by the terrible cuts and stitching on the sheath, with what appears to be damascus and bone with no name signed, and the very generic file work...

a cheap knife from India or Pakistan.

I apologize if that's someone's actual handiwork....
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I would not say anything about filework - that is very individual. But the damask certainly looks pakistanish to me. I always have an impression that it will leave gray stains on the hands if I touch it. And the sheath is not quite first class. So I actually subscribe to the same opinion. Cheap knife from Pakistan.
 
I thought Damascus was the best steel. Can it be faked? Why would that be a cheap knife with Damascus steel?
 
cziv said:
I thought Damascus was the best steel. Can it be faked? Why would that be a cheap knife with Damascus steel?
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They dig Damascus in mines on Indian-Pakistanish border. The deposits are quite considerable, but the quality of the Damascus ore is sort of substandard. Such an abundance of the resource and use of slave labor make Indian or Pakistani Damascus very cheap. But as you can see, their slaves are poorly trained and lack motivation to do good fileworking and sheathing... And bones of pakistani camel are gray and porous...
 
Poez said:
They dig Damascus in mines on Indian-Pakistanish border. The deposits are quite considerable, but the quality of the Damascus ore is sort of substandard. Such an abundance of the resource and use of slave labor make Indian or Pakistani Damascus very cheap. But as you can see, their slaves are poorly trained and lack motivation to do good fileworking and sheathing... And bones of pakistani camel are gray and porous...
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I thought it was a process that yielded those results and not a steel that was made from iron ored in that area. Learn something here every day. How come custom makes get such beautiful Damascus and then others are considered chintzy. Why is that?

Do makers like CRK, Darrel Ralph & many others do something special or do they buy really fine sheets of the steel to cut out their blades with?
 
Poez said:
They dig Damascus in mines on Indian-Pakistanish border. The deposits are quite considerable, but the quality of the Damascus ore is sort of substandard. Such an abundance of the resource and use of slave labor make Indian or Pakistani Damascus very cheap. But as you can see, their slaves are poorly trained and lack motivation to do good fileworking and sheathing... And bones of pakistani camel are gray and porous...
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Hello,

Im not saying your wrong but I think damascus is a man made thing. Not something you can just find in the ground.

Chris
 
Poez said:
They dig Damascus in mines on Indian-Pakistanish border. The deposits are quite considerable, but the quality of the Damascus ore is sort of substandard. Such an abundance of the resource and use of slave labor make Indian or Pakistani Damascus very cheap. But as you can see, their slaves are poorly trained and lack motivation to do good fileworking and sheathing... And bones of pakistani camel are gray and porous...
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wow. damascus deposits, imagine that.
 
Poez said:
They dig Damascus in mines on Indian-Pakistanish border. The deposits are quite considerable, but the quality of the Damascus ore is sort of substandard. Such an abundance of the resource and use of slave labor make Indian or Pakistani Damascus very cheap. But as you can see, their slaves are poorly trained and lack motivation to do good fileworking and sheathing... And bones of pakistani camel are gray and porous...
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Damascus steel is made by layering or folding the steel, process originated from Japan(?). I dont think it can be mined.. maybe he means getting the iron and steel ore from the deposits?
 
jimwalter said:
what is this?
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I don't know.......All I can tell you is Mom just realized her purse is missing, and she is Pissed some one made a sheath out of it!


Traditional damascus (as in Wootz) is actually not a folding or layering process. From what I understand, it is actually a process that happens because of the particular make up of the steel, combined with a particular heat treat protcal (canister, or crucible steel).

From what I have read, the process for making true damascus steel, in fact required steel with a specific composition. which could be mined with the necessary chemical make up. When the source for the ore dried up, the process was lost.

Supposedly, the process has been rediscovered. (or recreated). It sure looks pretty.

Folded steel, and pattern welded steel are not true damascus.
 
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Now we know what happened to Peter Brady's knife sheath!

Damascus can be made out of garbage cans and lead, where did all this weird info come from?
 
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