What is your favorite locking mechanism and why?

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Just curious as to your favorite. To me there are more important things on a lock besides brute strength. As important as strength is I would much rather have reliability. My favorite is the Axis lock. Reliable, ambidextrious, smooth, easy to manipulate, and strong. So, which is your favorite?

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Dennis Bible
 
Frame Lock. Integral Bar lock, Mono lock, whatever you want to call it. The most reliable lock available, simplicity itself, one moving part.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
Sawby.

It's invisible, ambidextrous, elegant,
easy to use, Exclusive.

Only Buck tried to make a copy. I think Gary wasn't happy with the results and it was scraped.

Rich
 
I always liked lockbacks better than liner locks, the former proving too fickle for my tastes. When I broke my Buck XlTi and found out they were discontinued, I thought I would never love again.

I ended up buying a Benchmade 710. I like the actual shape, blade and handle, of the XlTi a lot better, but the 710 is still a good knife. I have to say I've been impressed by the axis lock so far. I imagine it would be prone to sticking if you got a lot of grime in it, but I haven't played in the swamp for a very long time. It's certainly a solid lock, and I haven't found a way to accidentaly disengage it yet.

Another contender would be a well made clasp lock. The nice thing about them is that the harder you squeeze, the tighter the lock holds, and there's just no way in heck you're going to accidentaly hit the release, since it is being pressed solidly in the locked position between your palm and the handle of the knife.

An internal axis lock with a clap-style release lever would kick mucho butto.
 
I hate to have to keep sounding like a broken record, but the most reliable, the strongest lock in any folding knife design is the simple balisong. Locked open, a balisong is virtually as strong as a fixed-blade knife. Lock failures in quality balisongs are not just rare, they are unheard of.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
In order from good to worst:
1. fixed blade. No moving part. Absolut winner.
2. Good bali-song
3. Good mono-lock or framelock
4. Good Linerlock
5. Good Backlock
6. Bad Backlock
7. Bad Linerlock

Note: I've haven't had the pleasure using one of the newer lockingmechanism's like the rolling lock, new spydie lock and things like that.

greetz, Bart.
 
I have always liked well made liner locks. I have never had a problem with Benchmades and Emersons. However, there are a lot of very poorly made liner locks out there. The Axis Lock is great, no problems with them so far. I'm not that interested in the strength of the lock, a well made liner lock is fine with me. The other "new generation " locks have great gimmick/toy value and are very strong but reliability - locking up tight everytime, regardless of force used, is more of a concern to me.
 
I saw a lock on a knife where you had to pull the blade outward to unlock and close it. I thought it was really cool but I don't know how strong it is. I don't know the make and model either, can anyone help?
 
Quote: I saw a lock on a knife where you had to pull the blade outward to unlock and close it.

There have been at least two I came across that did that. I made a point of trying to forget them. I wouldn't buy one.

Stab that knife into a block of wood and then pull it back out. When it automatically unlocks itself, which way will the blade go, toward your fingers gripping the handle ... ?
 
I don't like the Axis lock at all because I don't find it comfortable to carry a knife with two studs sticking out of the sides. The REKAT version is acceptable since it has a much smaller control stud.

My favorite, I suppose, is the integral lock or frame lock because it is simple and relatively foolproof if it's made well. There are some that aren't made well. The best overall lock for security, safety, low cost and "foolproofness" all combined has to be the venerable lockback. Of my most common carry knives, half of them are lockbacks. Can't go wrong with them. Take care.

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Fred
Knife Outlet
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Got to agree with James on this one. Frame-locks are simple, foolproof and get the job done. I also favor liner-locks for ease of use, dependability (from my experiences), looks and design freedom. Have not liked using any of the "latest & greatest" locks to hit the market and I find the buttons on the BM's and REKAT's unsightly.

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It's only a mistake if you fail to learn from it!
 
AllenC-

The knives you speak of were marketing by Timberline. I think the lock was called a Neely Lock...

My dad had one that was OK at first, but then became sticky and hard to disengage. It resisted my efforts to clean it out or make it looser.
 
I have to agree with James as well. The integral/frame/mono lock is rugged, reliable, easy to use and simple. It has all the advantages of the liner lock and none of the disadvantages. The only fault I see is that it is not truly ambidextrous, though I unlick and close my sebenzas with my left hand all the time.

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Clay Fleischer
clay_fleischer@yahoo.com
AKTI Member A000847
 
Lockbacks. Especially the front lock or midlock style that spyderco uses. They are solid enough for me, I don't ever feel the need to jump up and down on mine. My knives see hard use but I try not to use any knife in a way that will make it fold up on me, the lock is just there for reassurance. The main thing about them is their so convenient. You can quickly flip them open and closed lots of different ways with only one hand.

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It'll feel better when it stops hurting.
 
I have to cast another vote for the Frame/Mono-lock, for all of the reasons listed above. Simple, strong, reliable.

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Louis Buccellato
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"only the paranoid will survive"
 
My favorite lock format is the Axis lock. I understand all the possible concerns about it being complex, and therefore prone to failure ... but meanwhile, I haven't seen it. It is as reliable as any of the simpler lock formats, as strong if not stronger, does a better job of keeping the blade closed, and is ambidextrous. It is the one to beat, for me.

I love the integral/mono/whatever lock format as well. Being simple is a virtue -- although again, being more complex has not put the axis lock at any reliability advantage versus the integral, as far as I can tell. The integral lock is also very strong and smooth. Slight downmarks versus the axis due to the fact that it's not ambidextrous.

One other factor that hasn't been covered by anyone yet, is the restrictions the various lock formats make on the handle design. Integral locks are typically solid titanium handles, with some minor room for aesthetic flairs like inlays, grooves, and anodizing. But by and large, you're limited to a solid titanium handle, and the slightly heavier weight that that implies.

One exception is the Elishewitz integral lock, which in theory combines the best of what an integral has to offer for reliability, and the greater freedom of handle design that liner locks offer. I don't know how well this format works in practice, but it certainly seems promising.

The Axis lock does not limit the handle materials as much as the integral locks does, which means lighter weight materials and formats can be supplied. However, the Axis lock does seem to require a minimum thickness. The thickness isn't very noticeable on a bigger folder, where it's expected anyway, but on smaller folders, it can be noticeable.

Joe
 
I'm with StJames, frame lock. Solid, easy, very easy to disengage. Balisongs are cool, but the opening to me is attention getting in a work environment.

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Brandon

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No I don't
Yes I do...
 
The REKAT lock on my Sifu allows a "gravity style open" by tripping the release switch. That in turn allows a "very gentle" snapopen if you do it right.

True, it's not technically ambi, but I can operate it southpaw with my index finger just fine. It's showing no sign of wear or play, and it's clearly strong enough for megafolder support.

The Sebenza-style monolock is GOOD mind you. But it's never been field-tested in a megafolder, and if you're into snapopens there's no way to do it gently.

Another thing, a monolock megafolder would have a weakness: if you "choked back" on the long grip to gain reach, you won't have a solid grip on the lock itself. The Sebenza lock's big advantage is that your own grip strength supports it and strengthens it but in some situations, this wouldn't happen with a megafolder.

Jim
 
Mostly I'm with Joe so I'll cut down my justification to minimum:
1. Axis Lock because it is strong, easy to operate, safe (no fingers on the blade path) and fully ambidextrous.
2. Mono/Integral/Frame Lock, if it is well made of course. Second place because it is not ambidextrous and you have to put fingers on the blade path.

And my own addition - good liner lock, especially if it has additional safety device like LAWKS on CRKT knives.

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Sergiusz Mitin
gunwriter
Lodz, Poland
 
I'm not sure that I agree that balisong locks are so great (and not only because I've broken cheapies). For one thing, every time you manipulate the blade, you are putting a great deal of pressure/friction/wear and tear on the pins. Additionally, the pins are typically smaller than on a good-quality normal folder -- say a REKAT Pioneer or Benchmade CQC7, both of which I have disassembled for cleaning/repair purposes. Finally, the seating on the pins may be uncertain, especially with the cheaper knives. I've seen handles go flying across a room when pins worked themselves out while the knife was being manipulated. I guess that if all you did with a bali was open it gently, use it to cut, then close it, the lock strength would be better than most other locks, but given the amount and type of use most balis see, I think the lock is less reliable than an Axis, Rolling, or mono-lock. Just my .02
 
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