What is your favorite locking mechanism and why?

Although I much prefer a fixed blade, I have to say that I have fast become a big fan of the Rolling Lock. Solid, easy to manipulate, visually clean and reliable.
I don't have any experience with a Bali-song(yet) but I hear they are second to none, so I will reserve judgement.
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Originally posted by Gollnick:
...but the most reliable, the strongest lock in any folding knife design is the simple balisong. Locked open, a balisong is virtually as strong as a fixed-blade knife.

Similarly, I believe you could say the same general things about the Barry Wood-invented swinging handle style knives. I don't know how else to describe them other than "Barry Wood". That doesn't mean it's my favorite though. I own exactly one, because I find it too cumbersome to open and close, but wanted to own one of these gizmothangs, knowhutImean?

Barry swears that if you had to take a folder into the wilderness and use it hard, this is the least likely style to fail you, or worse, close on your hand a long ways from civilization. I think he might be right. Hope I don't get stuck in the wilderness with just a folder though. Barry retired. His son-in-law, Mike Irie, continues to make these to order I believe (custom).

Having said that, a good quality, properly constructed liner lock is the most populous in my collection. The good ones are, well, good enough for me, as I don't stab trees and legs of lamb with mine too often ... at all. I have no big concerns about self defense with a good liner lock.

I agree that the Reeve styled frame lock is surely a very secure mechanical lockup. Reeve's Sebenza's are true working folders with a super heat treat on BG-42. Darrel Ralph does a nice job with this Reeve style lock. If you can stand to look at his obnoxious designs/colors/material choices, Elishewitz and now Crawford both do this kind of lock in their "Janus" folders also.

But no mistake, there are a lot of lousy linerlocks on the market, and poorly done, they are just poor locks. They require precision and repeatability in machining/mfg'ing to the thousandth. Not all vendors give a $#!+ though.

The Axis lock has a simple robustness to it, but I find it isn't as smooth over time, whatever that counts for, as it seems more prone to pocket grit buildup than liner locks. Gotta clean if frequently. Guess I ought quit stealing dirt and sand from work and stashing in my my pocket, eh?

I do have one Scott Sawby with his "Self Lock". It is indeed very clever, and patented. It is very difficult to accidentally unlock if that sort of thing concerns you greatly. One drawback, it is a rather large lock, and so makes any knife using it by definition rather inefficient if you consider the blade length-to-handle length ratio. Scott either hasn't had many offers, or does not wish to license out the patent, I don't know which.

[This message has been edited by rdangerer (edited 06-20-2000).]

[This message has been edited by rdangerer (edited 06-20-2000).]
 
Please don't compare a $10 made-in-China flea market balisong with a $120 Benchmade Axis Lock folder.

I've seen every ilk of $10 flea market locking knife fail, often right there in my hand with very little effort. For lock strength, I'd bet on a $10 balisong over any other $10 locking folder any day.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
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I like the Sebenza type intergal lock,quality BM balisong butterfly knives lock,Speedtechs Synergy button lock,and axis locks.
 
I think the Balisong type lock is hard to beat for reliability and strength. Besides, you don't have to open one in a flashy manner, you can even (gasp!) use two hands.
Thanks for the Neely-lock info, I think I'll pass on it (except as a collection knife).
 
I must be the dumbest guy here. What the heck is an integral/mono/frame/whatever lock? It's mentioned so many times and many people seem to like it, but I don't think I've come across it yet.

I have experienced, personally, the SAK lock, good and bad liner locks, balisongs, lockbacks (both Spydies' type of mid-back and the more usual Buck type), the lock used in the Gerber Paul series2 and the type of lock that Boker uses on its TopLock folders. Haven't tried out rolling, axis, Neely and Sawby.

Out of all those I've tried, both the locks employed by the SAK and Gerber Paul are the smoothest and most secure everytime. The lockbacks on the Spydies and Bucks, though smooth, are a little more fiddly as it entails a radical shift in grip to close, and I've actually sliced my fingers when I choked up wrongly on the Spydie and it closed on me. The button on the Boker TopLock feels rough when being depressed, but apart from that, it is smooth and secure. As for liner locks, it all depends on whether it was done well.
 
Hi!

In my opinion the best locking mechanism is
balisong latch.
And in "normal" folders the best is liner locking.
This was my 2 cents.
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Steelwolf:

This type of lock was first introduced by Chris Reeve on the Sebenza folder and he calls it the Integral Lock. Others have copied it giving it different names each time. The Integral Lock is made on titanium handles (usually) and is similar to a liner lock except the knife has no liners. A portion of the entire handle moves sideways to lock against the tang of the blade. So imagine a very strong and thick liner lock and you have the concept. Releasing the lock is the same as releasing a liner lock.

This lock is simple, strong and easy to use. It's major negative is that it is expensive because it normally requires titanium handles. Some "frame" locks have been done with steel (and even aluminum) handles but they don't last or perform like those on titanium handled knives. A Chris Reeve Sebenza is a knife for a lifetime. A lesser aluminum handled framelock is a knife for a year or two. So understand that all locks of this type aren't equal. That's also true of liner locks as you most likely know. Take care.

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Fred
Knife Outlet
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I haven't ever handled a balisong, so I could be completely wrong, but I don't think they can by design be as storng as the higher quality folders on the market. They definitely are very strong in terms of a vertical load on the blade, cutting edge or spine because in that case they have the load going against 2 pivot pins which would have to pull out of the ends of the handle, or break in two to fail. But a lateral load on the blade is a different story. Then they have all the force going against only the heads of the pivot pins, which aren't as tight as a handle pin on a regular folder because they have to be loose enough for the blade and handles to swing properly. There's nothing else there to to keep the handle from being pryed open at the pivot. Where one of the normal folders usually has liners, handle slabs, and several extra pins besides the pivot pin holding it together.

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It'll feel better when it stops hurting.
 
Good point and I agree, but I would never try to put pressure on the side of a knife blade (not even a fixed blade).
Besides the pin problem, the blade itself is rather thin and would probably snap.
 
My preferences go in the following order:
Axis Lock
Frame Lock
Spyderco Compression Lock
Good liner lock
Balisong

I have tried all of these locks and for smoothness and solid lockup, I still haven't found anything that beats the Axis lock on my BM 710. Pull the release button back a smidge and swing the blade out. That's all and you have a solid lockup. I have done forceful kinetic openings many times and the lock is yet to show any appreciable wear and tear. I haven't had any problems with grit, even though I carry it in my pocket every day.
Now, if only I could get a custom folder made with that lock...Sigh.


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Joshua "Kage" Calvert

"Move like Water, strike like Thunder..."
 
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