What is your opinioin on this way to protect blades?

Mar 29, 1999
Please excuse me to start a new thread instead of posting this in the thread "Knife Oils" #3581, but I would like to know the opinion of you all about an idea I had.

On that thread discussing how to prevent blades from rust I read many opinions, and many of them say it would be safe to use Tuff Cloth on blades used for food because it leaves very small traces (or none at all) of dangerous ingredients.

It seems to me a big mistake: there isn't a level so low you can say a carcinogenic element is not more carcinogenic. It is a matter of probability: someone smokes hundreds of cigerettes and lives in (quite) perfect health, someone doesn't smoke at all and dies of lung cancer. It can depend on his own health, but certainly smoking doesn't help. Perhaps Tuff Cloth is statistically "safe", but this doesn't mean it isn't dangerous in small quantities too.

So I agree with Chiro75 when he sais there isn't a reason to poison himself.

I use olive oil, because I have a very good olive oil from my own country. Someone says it will become rancid and gummy, so his opinion is it isn't so good.

This is my idea: to protect our blades when we are in the wilderness, why don't we use the lipstick people use when go skiing? A friend of mine told me it is called "lip balm" in USA, and a brand mane is Chap Stick. It is approved to be used on our mouth, so it have to be not dangerous at all. It is not liquid, it doesn't become rancid, it is easy to apply using the stick as a pencil, it is easy to carry. It isn't the stuff you can use every day or in big blades, but it is good when you are outdoor and could be hard to carry liquid oils. It could be a little gummy, but only if you use too lipstick.

What is your opinion? I'll make some experiments, using different cheap lipsticks, to discover what lasts longer and is easier to apply. Now it is summer, so it is a little easier to apply it. The problem would arise in cold weather, when I am afraid it would be hard to apply in small quantities.


Are you suggesting using chapstick on blades to be used for food service in the wilderness? If so, I don't think you would be real happy with it, it won't kill you or hurt you, but it doesn't taste very good, if it mixed in with the food while you wee using it I think you would be very unhappy with it.

Just because I talk to myself doesn't mean I'm crazy. What's wrong with getting a second opinion?
I don't think lib balm especially intended for protection against ultraviolet is the most suitable. My recommendation would be the Swedish defence forces multipurpose lip balm (or literally "skin salve") would be a better choice.

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It can be used for "almost anything", including frying food in. Ingredients are tallow, peanut oil, yellow wax, vanillin, citric acid and propylgallat.

I use the one in the larger, brown tube. Tass salva = paw salve, so it's really intended for dogs, but it's the same content and cheaper.

And to return to the subject of knives: Yes, I have used it on some, but not to the extent I can judge how well it works as corrosion protection; it seems to work and doesn't ruin food.

Urban Fredriksson

If this is the direction you are going then plain ol' petrolatum -- petroleum jelly -- Vaseline is as good a choice as any.

Desert Rat

IMHO, that kind of lipsticks is very easy to carry and to use. Not for a regular use, but when you are out in the wilderness.

I didn't have any chapstick so I went digging through my wife's purse and came up with some Maybelline. I haven't finished testing it yet but let me tell you it's pretty awesome when I pull out 10" of fire-engine red blade. (heehee)

Take a look at some of the bore conditioners and patch lube used by the muzzleloaders. Aroma is heavy on the clove or wintergreen, but is rated as safe for use and lube on food/kitchen tools. -Brian