What model is this?

The Scouts I work with, are stricly no fixed blades for safety reasons. They say a fall could cause injury, I say its because of "one upmanship". Some kid brings a 5", next time another brings 7" until we reach machete land.

When I teach Scouts, I always bring a fixed blades. One large 7-9", one small 4-5" and necker. I also have a few folders. I demonstrate the effective use of the larger ones, then teach how to get big work out of the little ones. Folders are what they get to use, so we work on a different skillset with those.

A real tragedy in my opinion. Hatchets really suck, and they are slow. The one good thing is you can throw them to pass the time. No machete's allowed, and I really don't get that one either.

Most of the kids I teach, have a fixed blade at home, and only bring the folders to class.

Moose
 
I talked with my scout superior who apperantly understands it, and he sez that the Scouts don't use fixed blades anymore because the boys are not competent with them.
I know that at least in the local troop we have, thats BS, cuz I taught em.
I think they're just scared. One upmanship is not very prevalent in this troop.


Oh BTW moose- I met some guys from Hooper's Outdoors outside of the store a few days ago.
 
thatotherguy said:
I talked with my scout superior who apperantly understands it, and he sez that the Scouts don't use fixed blades anymore because the boys are not competent with them.
I know that at least in the local troop we have, thats BS, cuz I taught em.
I think they're just scared. One upmanship is not very prevalent in this troop.


Oh BTW moose- I met some guys from Hooper's Outdoors outside of the store a few days ago.
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so do they use blades at all?

i know from my Scout days that there's nothing more dangerous than a non-locking slippy when you are tried, and don't have good technique. i learned goodly, while on the trail ;)
 
2/3 of my boys don't carry a knife at all, the possibly 2 carrying them all the time use either cheap POS winchester knives (he called my Benchmade 530 a "cheap overpriced toy") or a 90s era Buck 110 that has been thru the fire many, many times.
I'm also usually the only one on the trail with a decently stocked FAK for when that cheap POS knife fails.
Oh yeah, and Moose, why don't we all just gather up and show them the wonders of bk11/14s with dual retention kydex sheaths?
 
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Flipping through a Scout handbook ('09 version) I found this on page 403 (quote):
The Boy Scouts of America does not encourage the use of LARGE sheath knives, as they can be awkward to carry, clumsy, and are unneccesary for most camp chores
end quote.
They said large sheath knives are discouraged, nothing in there about small ones, so technically the boys can carry a bk11 or similar. I say just put a rule on blade lengths, say 4 inches, and you should be fine. The 11s and 14s have plastic sheaths, so there's no real risk for injury if they fall.
 
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