What New TACTICAL Folder

I don't want to be judgemental, but if you pick a liner lock over the axis, you must have scored some exceptionally good stuff, and can you get some for me? That's not judgemental, is it? :)

It's ironic that the accidental-release objections over the axis lock are not reflected at all in use, or even in testing. Meanwhile, it's the hardcore defense guys who train against heavy bag type objects that convinced me that liner lock failures were all-too-real. Theoretical weakness that has no basis in reality, or real weakness that's been documented loads of times? Hmmmm...

That's not judgemental either, is it :) :) :) (I get the feeling that by the time I'm done, I'll have to litter my post with so many smilies, it'll look all twinkly).

My own prejudices aside, if forced to stick strictly to your list, I'd be looking at the Axis AFCK, and the Chinook. The Chinook is an extremely capable knife, well-finished by Spyderco, strong lock, good blade, solid, etc. It is heavy, too heavy for me for an everyday carry knife, but a great choice. The Axis AFCK should be a blockbuster. The best lock going and a D2 blade, coupled with one of the best overall designs in a defensive folder ever, IMO. I feel that Benchmade's QC has come a long way, especially with previous Axis knives.

Oops! Just realized the chinook isn't on your original list, someone else brought it up. Still sweet! I agree with you about the Gunting -- it's cool, but if you don't have a 3" blade limit law in your state, then I'd look at something bigger.

In fact, I actually think your analysis of the knives you're looking at is excellent. I would pick some nits -- axis as weakness is insane, and I'd list microbar as a SOCOM Elite weakness -- but beyond a few nits that can always be argued either way, I think you've got a great handle on things. G

Joe
 
Thanks Joe, i do like axis locks, and for the most part I see them as an advantage, but after playing with the Socom, i think i might have trouble going back to the AFCk's handle.

Since i cant find a Socom in the B&M world i am going to reasearch the microbar a bit more, if it is anything like what i found on the MOD's i am going to look else where. Now i think i want a De-Auoted Socom, remove the spring, file off the realese mechanism, and drill a hole for the stud, and i would have a button lock manual, sounds like too much work, herm. I guess i might be SOL.

I love the LCC, not something i would like to use in a deffense/hard use role, because the handle is not designed well for retention, but i still want one. I like the look of the SEAR maybe if i could handle one it too would be on my list, i just dont like expossed linner locks, i like em hidden like on the AFCK.
 
ok cpirtle i conducted a search with your name on the CQD and i liked what i was reading, but if it is anything like the other MOD's i dont want anything to do with it, i have never been more dissapointed in a whole group of knives in my life.

After reading up on the MICROBAR i think i might hate it, my favourite liner lock is the BM 803 TSEK, the TSEK is better than the AFCK because it has Steel liners, and steel is STRONGER than titanium for a given Volume, only advantage to ti is that it "gauls" Steel is also less flexy. The only crappy part of the TSEK (and AFCK) is the silly plastic back spacer, if they replaced it with a full length piece of Aluminum BM would have the BEST liner lock.

I still like how the Socom feels.
 
Originally posted by LizardKing
Thanks Joe, i do like axis locks, and for the most part I see them as an advantage, but after playing with the Socom, i think i might have trouble going back to the AFCk's handle.
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Ah, okay, I'm calm now :) I think the SOCOM Elite is as sexy-looking a knife as I've seen. I actually think that one area I really like the AFCK (even the liner lock version) over the SOCOM Elite is the handle -- I find the AFCK's handle both more secure and more comfortable. The Elite feels good too, though, looks amazing, and of course has that Microtech fit & finish.

Since you mention the AFCK's titanium liners and fleixibility as a negative, I'll also point out that it's likely the Axis AFCK's liners will be steel. I don't think titanium will cut it as a liner material for the axis lock.

Joe
 
the axis AFCK's handles are steel and drilled like the ones on a 710, i want to know if it got the 710's full length back spacer as well.

For some reason the Socom fits my hands rather well, to be honest the AFCk's handle is too small! when i give it a really tight grip my ring and pinky hit my palm, this doesnt happen with the socom, i also prefer the socoms thumb pad, if i could get the AFCK's index finger gaurd and socom's everything else i would be happiest. (i also like the socoms thicker blade stock)

So after reading i have found out that the MicroBar is not a "real" liner lock, i guess i was hoping that i would be like the liner on a LCC

And dont worry Joe i trust the lock on my 940 more than any other.

BTW, is the run of AL 710's over, i was just thinking that one of them might be the ticket.
 
Another Axis Lock AFCK vote :) ...I still think the design is among the best for an all around production folder.., and in D2..with an Axis Lock....AWESOME!


"Hunters seek what they [WANT].., Seekers hunt what they [NEED]"
 
Lizardking, for defensive purposes in New Hampshire, all one needs to be is 18, never convicted of a felony and BREATHING. You walk into your Local police department, fill out a one page application that consumes all of five minutes if you are a slow reader/writer and just walk out. RETURN in TEN business days with a crisp ten dollar bill. Sign by the BIG "X", you get the white copy, good for four years, the C.L.E.O. who approves and signs the bottom, keeps the yellow copy for the records, the State of NH GETS NOTHING!!! All CCW's are issued at a local level. Once ya got it, you CAN carry a loaded and concealed Firearm ANYWHERE within the state of NH with the obvious exceptions.....
NH is kind of a MUST ISSUE State. If the C.L.E.O denies your Application, HE/She is held PERSONALLY responsible and Financially responsible if he cannot give a LEGAL standard for said denial. There is a fine line between what Our very very second-ammendment loving State finds as grounds for a denial based on a "good character issue". In a nutshell, if a person over 18 is denied, files an appeal with the District Court and the C.L.E.O cannot prove by a preponderance of the evidence that you are unfit to the "letter of the Law" you get a free permit, he MUST pay ALL your costs out of HIS pocket for your hasssles.
So, other than not being Federally legal to buy handgun ammo until 21, an 18 year-old can have mommy or Daddy go to walmart for that, anyone of 18 can pack loaded heat for DEFENSE.
Look at knives for a utility tool, you wanna bring a FIREARM to a fight for your LIFE. Just Learn EXACTLTY what is the LEGAL and MORAL standards as well as you know your name, become so proficient that the word "accidental" is a NEVER, because sending a projectile in another's direction is a "forever decision" and then when you have every issue MASTERED::: Develop your mindset. Then and only then are you truly in a position to defend yourself. Until then, take the words of these folks who have suggested knives, they are the EXPERTS......wolf;)
 
New Hampshire is a wonderful place isnt it?

We have a bill of rights, unlike a bill of privelages, that seems to be common in other states.

I live in Amherst NH, SD is not that big of a concern here, granted if i lived in some areas of Nashua i would have a Gun 24/7, i am only 20, so first handgun purchase is going to have to wait a few months.

That being said, i prefer a knife, not because its better, but because they usually dont scare my friends, i carry them everywhere, effective against most things other than firearms, and i can bring them to Mass.

i just wish that CCW would apply to automatic knives, now that would be a forward looking state.
 
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