What to expect when getting wood dyed and stabilized

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This thread was prompted by one from several months ago.
A knife maker was complaining and blaming the stabilizer for how a piece of wood turned out that he had sent in to be dyed and stabilized.
He never posted any photos so we will never know for sure if anything even went wrong. He said it looked dark on the outside and light colored inside.

I am posting these photos and explanation so you can know what to expect if you send in any wood to be dyed and stabilized.

The wood here was dyed and stabilized for me by K&G, (Knife and Gun Finishing Supply). I have been delighted by everything they have done for me.

All of these pieces are maple burl. All cut from the same burl. All of each color were done in the same batches.

When the wood first comes back from being dyed first and then stabilized it looks like this. Very dark.

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The exteriors are covered with gunk that may be a little sticky. This is excess resin with some pigment from the dye.
That outer rind is what causes most of the clogging and gunking up of your sanding belts. I remove the exterior with my sander using very course 36 grit. If you go much finer the belts or discs clog faster.

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Then I go to 120 grit with the stationary belt sander.

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Finally 220 grit with a palm sander.

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You have probably noticed the blocks looking a little darker as you get to the finer grits.
That is because the coarser surfaces reflect the light differently hiding a lot of the color.
As you get a smoother surface the coloring and figure begin to stand out a lot more.

This is 220 grit and sprayed with a light coat of lacquer. Not quite as nice as it will look when a handle is properly finished. But enough to show some of the potential.

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As a summary
The dyed and stabilized blocks will always look darker on the exterior before they are cleaned up.
Each piece of wood will react differently to the dye. It's dye not paint.
To make the most of the wood's potential you have to finish it correctly.

Most of the professionally stabilizing companies know what they are doing when it comes to dyeing and stabilizing wood.
Some woods just won't take the dye the same as others. If something looks wrong it may not be.
 
I did not expect that at all.
When I look at pictures of burl wood I keep thinking how beautiful it is, but never thought it could be this dark and depressing.
I've never handled burl wood, but sure would like too.

Thanks for the pictures, Mark.
 
Great report Mark. It is a shock to see the wood in the first raw state. But the real beauty lays within. If someone had shallow penetration then the stabilizer did no do the job right. There are more and more garage stabilizers out there. Some can do a decent job most do a poor job at best. After attempting to set up my own system hoping to save a bunch of $$ and spending over 1k to do so I came to the conclusion I could get a whole lot of wood done for the same price. K&G is my choice for my wood. But now I am buying more wood already dyed and stabilized so I know exactly what I am buying. It can be a little bit of a crap shoot sending off wood as to how it will take the process. In the long run I find it cheaper to buy from someone like Mark here.
 
eStated perfectly, I did my first batch with KandG and just got the dyed stuff back yesterday. Didnt have much time to mess with it before my trip but lets just say at first I was like oh y god what did I do. Then a couple minutes on the sander and it was like oh yeah that looks nice.
 
Just got a batch of dyed wood back from K&G and it looked like the first picture. My mind went "Crap, that was a $75 lesson." Decided to sand one down a bit on my belt sander. Used 120 grit. Gummed my sandpaper up good, but discovered it looked very nice underneath. Ran a search and found this thread. Now I know how to clean up the wood. Only cost me one 120 grit belt!

Thanks for the old thread!
 
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