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What was this used for?

Discussion in 'Camillus Collector's Forum' started by lrv, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. lrv

    lrv

    Sep 14, 2003
    Mel Jones sent me these pictures of a tool with a Camillus stamp. Anyone know what it is and what it was used for?
    thanks. Oh Happy Thanksgiving.
     

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  2. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    618
    Feb 4, 2011
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    Full size - http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/194588/24879594.4b/0_bdc94_a7fe7768_orig

    "It was used for recessed head aviation fasteners.
    We used the same sort of fasteners on the Gas Turbine pods that housed the start units for the F-4 Phantoms.
    The Phantoms did not have an on-board start unit. They were started by trailer or pod mounted gas turbine engines (basically a small jet engine about 5 or 6 feet long). If the Phantom was flying into a field that did not have a Ground Support Equipment unit that kept the gas turbine start units, they had to put a pod mounted gas turbine under the wing so they could start the Phantom when they were ready to leave.
    The pods and much of our gear Ground Support Equipment (GSE in the Marine Corps) gear used the same recessed head aviation fasteners that were used on aircraft. GSE was n=known as MARS in the USAF and the Navy called it Yellow Gear because of the color scheme used on aircraft carriers.
    We used the same sort of fastener keys as those made by Camillus. That was over 40 years ago, so for all I remember our fastener keys may have been made by Camillus.
    "
    Tom Williams
     
  3. sac troop

    sac troop

    769
    Mar 4, 2009
    Yes, thats exactly what I thought when I saw the tool in the OP. Most of my equipment was in the nose of the phantom and this was the key to open the door.
     
  4. citytransplant

    citytransplant

    216
    Apr 12, 2008
    So, please help a guy with no military experience. The item depicted is a key to a door on an aircraft? :confused:
     
  5. sac troop

    sac troop

    769
    Mar 4, 2009
    Not really a door. Sorry for using a bad metaphor. On the outside of the aircraft there are removable panels that need to be taken off for service and maintenance. At first glance they look like they are attached by standard flathead screws, but they aren't that. They only have a limited amount of travel from locked to open. They also stay attached to the panel. Good for keeping them out of jet engine intakes. Yes you could open and close them with a proper fitting screw driver but the tool in the OP could be termed the "official tool". This probably doesn't help much. This is an instance where the right picture would be worth at least a thousand words. If I come across one I'll share.
     
  6. Phil in Alabama

    Phil in Alabama

    549
    Oct 31, 2005
    I think the fasteners are called Dzus fasteners; I looked those up via Google, and there were listed several similar tools to the OP's called Dzus snoopies because of the resemblance in shape to Snoopie from the Peanuts comics.
     
  7. robgmn

    robgmn

    990
    Oct 30, 2015
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  8. citytransplant

    citytransplant

    216
    Apr 12, 2008
    Thanks sac, Phil, and rob. Now I can say I know more today than I did yesterday, without considering everything I forgot during that time, of course. Happy Thanksgiving.
     
  9. Vit_213

    Vit_213

    618
    Feb 4, 2011
    Thanks Larry for waking this sleeper forum :D
     
  10. lrv

    lrv

    Sep 14, 2003
    Awesome job guys.
    I sent a link to this discussion for him to see.
    Thanks for getting back so quickly,
    Larry.
     
  11. FatCity67

    FatCity67 Gold Member Gold Member

    497
    Sep 22, 2013
    I believe cowl is the term your looking for. Key for a cowl fastener. Im sure there is a GSA Fed Spec that could be found somewhere on the internet.

     
  12. sac troop

    sac troop

    769
    Mar 4, 2009
    Cowling would be specific to an engine covering. Dzus fasteners are used on a variety of covers.
     

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