What would the men of our families have carried?

I never knew either of my grandfathers, so I have no idea what they might have carried. In fact, in more than fifty years, I only heard Dad speak of his father once, and Mom has never mentioned her father at all. What I do know is I've never seen Dad carry anything but his old two blade serpentine jack with federal shield, in spite of having one hand openers I've given him and the income to afford any knife that ever struck his fancy.
 
I think working men of earlier generations would have opted for the tool that worked efficiently, quickly and safely. They were pragmatic much more than romantic.

They took good care of their tools because they usually couldn't afford to (or want to) replace them unnecessarily.

I don't doubt for a second that many would opt for easy opening, locking, one hand operating folders were they given a choice of knives available to them.

We, their heirs, can afford to be nostalgic and romantic where many of them couldn't be. We carry on the tradition out of fondness and respect for what they represented...not because the tools themselves were optimal (in all cases).

At least that's my take...And I, for one, continue to prefer the knives and tools that keep me in touch with that time (but for the occasions when it's impractical or unsafe to do so).

very well said Elliot. I feel the exact same way.
 
My grampa passed away 5 years ago, the day before he would have turned 93. He was a logger for 40 years, an avid fisherman and hunter too.
I know what he carried, because I now have them. A couple old Schrade Walden stockman knives. They were used, but well taken care of, and sharper than any knife I have ever seen or owned. He took care of everything he owned, and I don't recall him ever buying something new just because it was nice looking. Everything had a purpose, and when something new was bought, it was for a reason...

I don't really know if he would have opted to own what we consider a modern knife. I know for certain he wouldn't have owned and used anything with a pocket clip, because there would be a chance it could get hung up on something. However he may have chosen that style of knife, and removed the clip.

A knife that has steel that holds an edge longer, might be a welcome addition.
 
My Dad carried small advertising pen knives -- whatever a sales rep handed him. He was not particular, so long as it did what he wanted and would hold an edge. When I got my first Buck 110 Folding Hunter back in the 70s, he fell in love with it and went right out to get one for himself. I would like to have gotten it when he passed, but my older brother didn't have a Folding Hunter so I let him take it. I had to "settle" for Dad's WWII Navy issue Ka-Bar -- poor me. :( Not!
 
Not really sure I see the comparison there. We're talking about a different version of something they already carried and used.

True. That's why I prefaced it with "apropos of nothing." It was just a random thought that either has something to do with, or is the result of my complete conversion back to carrying slipjoints. To me, their cutting performance wins out, even though in carrying one instead of a thick-bladed, locking, one-hand wonder knife, I could someday be in a position where I might benefit from a locking blade or the ability to open my knife with one hand. I guess that's a risk I'm willing to live with. Anyway, sorry for the detour ..... interesting thread.

-- Mark
 
To me, their cutting performance wins out-- Mark

I have to agree with you there. 99% of the time I carry a traditional slip joint of some type, even though I have a few very nice modern folders. Usually after work, I take my son to the park to play (he's only 19 months old). He almost always finds a stick and hands it to me. He likes to watch me take the knife from my pocket and strip the bark from the stick. The look of amazement on his face is priceless. After this he picks up a new stick from the ground, and reaches is his pocket expecting to find a knife. When he realizes he doesn't have one, he picks up yet another stick and, pretending it is his knife, proceeds to mimick me. No matter how many times he does this, it just never gets old. Anyway, back to the point. Most of the time the knife I use is a 34OT, which makes short work of any whittling. Well, the other day I happened to have a Spyderco Dragonfly on me. I know this knife if very sharp, but it just seemed to take much more effort to skin that branch.

This is totally off topic, but I have seen a lot of "can you use just one knife" type of threads.... I think I may have even started one. A lot of the comments seem to be that people don't see the need to limit themselves to one knife, which is fine. For me, my desire to be a "one knife guy" stems from these trips to the park with my son. I would love for him to look at me the way most of us look at the previous generation of men in our lives. I want to have that one knife that he remembers always seeing me with, to pass on to him when I'm gone. Sorry if this is a little sappy..... just wanted to share my thoughts.
 
Usually after work, I take my son to the park to play (he's only 19 months old). He almost always finds a stick and hands it to me. He likes to watch me take the knife from my pocket and strip the bark from the stick. The look of amazement on his face is priceless. After this he picks up a new stick from the ground, and reaches is his pocket expecting to find a knife. When he realizes he doesn't have one, he picks up yet another stick and, pretending it is his knife, proceeds to mimick me.

I love it. Great image! My boy's a bit older, but also loves to bring me sticks to whittle on. Now that he's 6, I'm starting to work with him on proper safety and technique (his older sister too) and he really enjoys it. I always tell him, "Now if you do this the wrong way, you'll slip and cut yourself and then what happens?"

And on cue, he responds, "Mommy will kill you." :D

Most of the time the knife I use is a 34OT, which makes short work of any whittling. Well, the other day I happened to have a Spyderco Dragonfly on me. I know this knife if very sharp, but it just seemed to take much more effort to skin that branch.

I've had the exact same experience, but with a Delica.

... my desire to be a "one knife guy" stems from these trips to the park with my son. I would love for him to look at me the way most of us look at the previous generation of men in our lives. I want to have that one knife that he remembers always seeing me with, to pass on to him when I'm gone. Sorry if this is a little sappy..... just wanted to share my thoughts.

I hear you. I think there's some of that in both why I converted back to slippies in general, and have taken to carrying my chestnut bone peanut every day as well.

And no apology needed for getting sappy. Hell, in this sub-forum that earns you bonus points! :thumbup:

-- Mark
 
Very interesting topic. I would have to believe that, given the opportunity, they likely would have carried a knife that we today refer to as "tactical" or "modern". By "they" I mean both my grandfathers. Both were farmers and raisers of livestock. I didn't know my mother's father (Keith, my middle name), who died while I was still in diapers. My uncle still farms the land in Kansas that he did. I would guess that if Keith carried a pocket knife, it was inherited by my uncle. I should ask him what he carries. Besides farming, he's a real cowboy. He rides a horse and wrangles cattle for a living.

My father's father (Thom, also the name of my father and my brother) passed away just last year. I was fortunate to receive several of his pocket knives (inexpensive, but serviceable) after his death. He farmed the land and raised sheep. He was given an exemption for serving in WWII because as a farmer and sheep raiser, he was more valuable fighting the war at home (food and wool). Of the knives that I personally kept (the rest are with my parents), 3 are stockmans and 1 is a barlow. The story was that when he was hiring a new farm hand he would ask him for his pocket knife. If he didn't have one, my grandfather wouldn't hire him. If he had one, he'd try cutting a fingernail with one single motion. If it wasn't sharp enough, he still wouldn't hire him. He wouldn't trust a man who didn't carry a sharp pocket knife.

I don't think they would have carried something like a Sebenza, or even a Benchmade or higher end Spyderco. They certainly would have bought a quality knife, but wouldn't have spent a lot of money - no more than necessary anyway. Even so, it's certainly odd to think of such men carrying a knife like a Spyderco Endura SE or a Cold Steel American Lawman. As I said, given the opportunity, I think they would have. There's a reason 1-handed opening knives with pocket clips are so popular now, and popularity of traditional knives isn't what it used to be. But it just doesn't "fit". Any more than I'd expect them to rock out to Iron Maiden, put spinners on their tractors, or watch reality shows on TV. However, I think that's romanticizing it. I (we?) have a certain "image" of this generation in my mind, and an honest old stockman or barlow fits that image, not tacticals. But I think practicality on their part could definitely had led them to carry a Delica or Leek, had they the option. Even then, as farmers and raisers of livestock, a stockman certainly would be practical regardless of what decade it is.

It's an odd thing for me to think about, since the main reason I've developed interest in traditional knives is because of the connection I feel with that disappearing generation when carrying one, particularly following my grandpa Thom's death. Even though I think they definitely might have carried a modern knife, I don't like to think of of them doing so.
 
My folks where all farmers of some sort, dad still is. I'm nearing 50, and my dad is nearing 70, just for perspective of time. My Grandpa on my dads side always carried a 3 bladed stockman, usually Case, but some times Uncle Henry. My Great Uncle, that farmed with Gpa, carried a Case Sodbuster, while my Grandpa on my moms side caried many different knives, stock man,barlow, slim trapper, pen etc. I remember both my Grandpas having several knives that they carried on different days and a Sunday knife that went to church and social gatherings. Maby that's where I caught the feaver! I can remember my moms dad had a whole drawer full of knives, and almost all of them had a story behind them, such as this one belonged to so and so before we traded. It seems that some of them where indeed tokens of remembrance as well as users. I can't see any of my Grandpas buying or using some of the more modern knives, but who knows.

My dad OTH isn't a knife nut at all! Matter of fact I don't think he has ever collected anything in his life, although I have given him knives that I have never seen again, in use or other wise. He always carries a fixed blade buck, with about a 5 inch blade, on his belt when farming that he has had probably 20 years!
 
Shocked!

I was helping dad with the wheat harvesting yesterday (what a vacation for me! hehe), when Dad whipps out a knife to clear some dirt build up. I hear a FLICK, look down and he has produced some kind of auto opener frame lock! So I guess it's safe to say that if these had been widly avalable they would have used them as well!
 
My father, who was born in 1896, always carried a Barlow. The Barlow is alsothe type that I remember the hardware store in our farm community selling in the mid 50's. I've spent some forty years metal detecting old places however (finding many knives) and the Barlow is not one of them (could be because there's not much brass in the handle to give me a chirp). Most knives I've dug from the past have been the old "camp king" boy scout design, the two blade jack, or at the older colonial-civil war places, mostly knives that resemble the toothpick shape.
 
This thread needs some pictures!
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My Pop was born in 1908.
This is the knife that started it all for me.
His knife. The stone too.
There were others but this was his EDC when I was in grammar school.
He was a carpenter/woodworker and gold beater.
The knife is sharpened with what we would call a scandi edge. He called it a woodworking edge.

The other knife, the one that sat on his night table for the most part, was this old Hammer Brand
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My Godfather (mechanical engineer) carried a (Henkles?) canoe.

My FIL worked worked in ship yards and carried an electricians knife. I think it was a Camillus.

Knives to these men were just tools. No magic, no jewelry, just a tool to help get thru the day.

The best gift I ever got my Pop was this SAK.
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He was thrilled to upgrade and made some amazing household repairs with that bad boy.
He liked to sharpen it with sandpaper.
Because it was handy.
From the looks of the blade, I'd say 220 grit :)
 
Millers and tobacco farmers on my father's side, dairy farmers on my mother's side. Sorry fellows, it wasn't just men; both men and women carried and used knives (my mom just turned 85, and she has an Buck 112 with her always).

As others have said, a knife was a working tool back then. If a job needed doing--Right Now!--and a knife was the only tool at hand, the knife often did what knives aren't meant to do. It's cheaper and easier to replace a knife than a tractor, a mill belt, an animal, or a body part. I bought my dad a new knife every Christmas because he'd worn out the one from the previous year.
 
Poppa (Grandfather on Dad's side) was in the CCC, & loved to fish & liked Case knives. He's the person who gave me my 1st knife. His stag handled Case whittler was well worn so I can't see him changing to something more modern. He had time invested in that knife, a long-standing relationship. Granted I could see him tempted bu some of the H1 steel offerings from Spyderco for the tacklebox.

My Dad liked new & flashy an carried a Buck 110 & a Puma Great White Hunter. He seemed to get caught up in the marketing of them. I can recall him going on how the Buck could cut through a nail like advertised. The Puma was a popular knife with soldiers in the 60s/70s & Dad was in the National Guard so I assume that is what prompted that purchase. Mostly just used his Buck 110 to cut stuff - He was a mechanic so other tools were always close at hand. If he was still around I could easily see him owning something like a Spyderco Military or some such.

Pop (Grandfather on Mom's side) died when I was 6 so I don't recall that much on him. He was drafted for WWI & was almost on a boat to France when the war ended. He retired from a telegraph company.
 
Good stuff, Wally! :thumbup:

Thanx Elliott :)
Here is the photo that I couldn't find last night.
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Left & right are the FIL's. He liked the scaleless knife because it was thin in the pocket.
Bottom is Pop's toothpick.
Top is a CAMCO Barlow that I found. Who ever had it before me sure used it a lot!
 
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