What would you be comforatable with out in 20 degree weather or below.

[razorsdescent]

Honestly I think you will be fine however sometimes the temps can be lower than in the forecast. Still in a tent/shelter with all of that you're not going to die by a long shot. That said I have used my sleeping bags as quilts down to negative 20 F. Just unzip the bag, flip it around and put your feet into the foot section. It works great.

Funny you should say that, the actual predicted temps for the area are currently in the lows 30's, 32 and 34 degrees respectively. I just knock ten degrees off to find what I think is a working practical assumption, also added to that is the fact that it is a mountain and things are often a good deal colder than originally predicted.

I have actually never tried just flipping them around, I might give it a shot at some point. Also due to this thread I have been looking at other interesting sleeping bag designs (center-zips, etc) and actually think that the new Sierra Designs Back Country Bed looks like it is relatively free of impediments to movement. Realistically though, I am going to continue my current set-up until I find a situation that I do not think that I can safely meet with my current configuration. The current dilemma is how best to employ my current gear. It looks like some trial and error will be in order. There are a lot of guys that have spent a lot more time in the bush than me, so opinions are very welcome.

I appreciate all of the feedback that I have gotten so far.

 

[Woods Walker]

Funny you should say that, the actual predicted temps for the area are currently in the lows 30's, 32 and 34 degrees respectively. I just knock ten degrees off to find what I think is a working practical assumption, also added to that is the fact that it is a mountain and things are often a good deal colder than originally predicted.

I have actually never tried just flipping them around, I might give it a shot at some point. Also due to this thread I have been looking at other interesting sleeping bag designs (center-zips, etc) and actually think that the new Sierra Designs Back Country Bed looks like it is relatively free of impediments to movement. Realistically though, I am going to continue my current set-up until I find a situation that I do not think that I can safely meet with my current configuration. The current dilemma is how best to employ my current gear. It looks like some trial and error will be in order. There are a lot of guys that have spent a lot more time in the bush than me, so opinions are very welcome.

I appreciate all of the feedback that I have gotten so far.

I often use a center zip bag. Also if yea really want to increase your warmth get an Exped downmat.

My center zip bag.

 

[razorsdescent]

I often use a center zip bag. Also if yea really want to increase your warmth get an Exped downmat.

My center zip bag.

Very nifty looking, when I am eventually looking for a fullzip bag, I will take that into consideration.

On a note to people who have been following this thread, my Serape arrived today, so I will be able to post the results Sunday night.

 

[razorsdescent]

So I am back, the temps dropped to 18 degrees Fahrenheit.

For everyone who is following this thread, the set-up worked great. I actually got so warm during the night that I kicked the Serape off and just used the Wiggy's Poncho Liner and the USGI woobie. I slept in poylpro, wool socks, a synthetic cap (Which also got removed) and an Underarmor hoodie.

The Wiggy's Liner was also on its maiden voyage and I have to say that I was quite impressed. The Serape has some great reviews and I fully endorse it, but it is about 6 times the amount I spent on that Wiggy's liner. Bottom line, I plan to get a few more of these.

My friend was more than warm enough in the USGI black bag, and slept in brown polypro and micro-fleece pt cap.

Now for the bad, I am back a day early because the dog just couldn't handle it. The poor thing spent all night shivering despite being in a Polartec fleece jacket (A Ruffwear brand dog jacket). It was in a pop-up crate we set inside a vestibule on a ground tarp. We lined the pop-up crate with a small rug that has a rubberized bottom. This is going to be the subject of another thread elsewhere in the outdoors sub-section.

For all the people who followed this and gave replies, thanks, and now I know first hand.

 

[Woods Walker]

So I am back, the temps dropped to 18 degrees Fahrenheit.

For shadowing.....

Honestly I think you will be fine however sometimes the temps can be lower than in the forecast.

Funny you should say that, the actual predicted temps for the area are currently in the lows 30's, 32 and 34 degrees respectively.

LOL! It almost never fails. On a side note the Wiggy's poncho liner is warm. I have one in woodland. Packs down like an angry black bear compared to most poncho liners/Woobies but it gets the job done. Sorry to hear your hound had a hard time.

 

[razorsdescent]

Yup, you definitely called it. Mountains seem to be particularly prone to this, ya know, being mountains and all

The packability is really my only complaint on the Wiggy's. But hardly insumountable, I didn't even bother to purchase the compression sack for it, just used the stuffsack that came with it. Really an amazing piece of gear, especially when the price is considered.