What would you do?

we had a situation similar to this as the law in Oregon requires the public to be informed if a sexual predator moves into his/her neighborhood or surrounding neighborhoods. Oregon State Police trooper brings to my house the notice complete with photo of said "sexual predator" moving in a few houses down, the scarier part is that the person in question never did move in he simply gave a false adress (the house down the street from my wife and I) and disappeared, so now instead of knowing where he lives so that preventative measures could be taken like Jsmatos situation no one but himself knows where he is so he is free to prey again :mad:
 
Cindy Denning said:
I don't understand the logic of law enforcement, corrections departments, who ever decides how long some monster as this is sent to jail for a shorter period of time than a proffessor at USC who just got 25 years in jail for growing marijuana in his home. What is wrong with this picture and why take a chance on a possible another attempt for something to go horribly wrong for some child and family. Jsmatos, unfortunatly he has rights under the law too. :confused: :(
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Hello Cindy,

I agree that our system metes out justice very disproportionately, and unjustly, sometimes. Our legislators make the laws and create the penalties. Early release is the result of parole commissions (created under our Florida constitution) through the implementation and application of conditional release programs, controlled release etc...which are all created by our elected officials. I'm really not knowledgeable enough on the subject matter to educate anyone, as I'd have to first educate myself. I will say, however, that I've watched parole commissions on television making early release decisions and thought it was a very, sad joke. As I saw it, the smarter, more dangerous, criminals got out.

You said that "he has rights...too." I agree, but where his rights intersect with the safety of young children, that's where the rubber should meet the road. It was his behavior that created this little "quandary." And we're supposed to sit around worrying about his rights. What about the rights of preschool children everywhere. :mad:
 
actually if the crime he commited is a felony, which I believe it is, then he has given up his rights to own property, as well as giving up his 4th 10th and 2nd ammendment rights, infact I don't believe fellons are protected by any of the rights guaranteed us law abiding citizens by the constitution as I believe there is a law that forfeits their rights as they have chosen to commit a fellony,unfortunately this law is usually not enforced
 
K.V. Collucci said:
My more logical choice would be to start a neighborhood playground watch with parents overseeing the children in shifts.
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Probably the best idea so far.

I realize that most parents would prefer to cut this individual's heart out with a blunt teaspoon.

I would combine the parent overseer with another (preferably male) parent. The function of the additional parent would be to stand directly in front of this predator's house (but across the street, in the park.) Just to stare at the house, or him, if he's in his driveway. No words, no actions, just stare.

Let this MPOS know that you're watching him without saying a word.
 
Here's what some of our people did here in New Zealand.
I don't accept that paeodphiles have a right to live anywhere. The only right they have is to run, and keep running, or even better JUST COMMIT SUICIDE.

Sometimes I really like our angry mob mentally here in New Zealand, get's the job done nicely.:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3281088a10,00.html

Paedophile quits West Coast home
16 May 2005
By KERI WELHAM

A convicted paedophile has abandoned his home in Blackball near Greymouth after relentless pressure from angry residents.


The man moved to the house recently after his release from prison, and Greymouth police later told the local primary school's principal.

Last night Greymouth Mayor Tony Kokshoorn said he believed the man was still in the district, but had heard he was now in the Salvation Army's care.

A vigil had been mounted outside the convicted paedophile's home just days before he is due to plead with his neighbours for a fresh start in the West Coast town.

Placards at the protest campsite and fighting talk from organisers make it clear he will face strong, and possibly volatile, opposition in his bid to stay.

"Do us all a favour and kill yourself," one sign read.

Protest organiser Alan Gurden warned of a struggle to contain tensions in the tiny community of 400. He said Blackball wanted the man and his partner thrown out of town before frustrated residents took matters into their own hands.

"We don't want to be known as a bunch of vigilante morons," he said.

Gurden and a friend had been camping on the council reserve opposite the man's house since Saturday and said they would stay at their posts until the couple and all their possessions were gone.

Gurden threatened to take a photograph of the paedophile and post it on the internet so other small towns could scour their communities for him. A meeting has been organised for tomorrow afternoon to discuss the issue, and police had spoken to the man and invited him to attend, but whether or not he would was unknown.

"He indicated to us he was coming to the meeting to try to talk the population of Blackball into letting him stay ... but he might not turn up. Who knows?" Kokshoorn said.

He had obviously "picked up the vibes" and decided to get out.

"You can't put a person like that into a small rural town.

"It's not fair on that little community. There are a lot of kids in Blackball and it's only a matter of time before he offends."

At its peak, around 10.30am yesterday, the crowd of protesters had grown to about 35. On Saturday night protesters held a barbecue outside the house.

Throughout the night residents brought baking and home-cooking for those sleeping out.

Although one resident said he thought the sign advising the paedophile to kill himself was possibly a bit over the top, protester Daaron Turton said it was realistic.

Turton, a father of two, said he was on the list of locals to be called up if "things start happening – if there's any development, put it that way".

"This little town doesn't need to be known as a paedophile town."

He said the town's country lifestyle was at stake.
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I'm not a fan of the "scarlett letter" but if this mari posa is looking at children
and has a history of abusing pre-teens do what you have to.

In NC there is a wave of laws against predators going into public parks.
If they do they can be arrested for criminal tresspass which would violate
this guy's parole. Perhaps a suggestion to the county commissioner would
accomplish that.

(you being a attorney, it is cruel hard to outcast someone but this guy is
stalking children, what do you suppose this guy is doing? making sure the
parents are looking after their tykes?) Push for an ordinance that keeps guys
like this one completely away from children. You don't want to know my plan
"B"
 
Jen,

With the rash of recent incidents in Florida lately I think alerting the local media to this guy and exercising your right to free speech might be a start.
 
Most of what has been said are good ideas and good suggestions, but the neighborhood parents also need to talk to their children to let them know that it's "ok" to tell someone if they are approached by that bozo or touched in an area on their body "that is covered by a swimming suit".

Kids need to know that's it's ok to "tell".
 
I don't really know how the law works in the US, so this is just what I would do. Laws here in Argentina are too protective of the criminals' rights (you can live next to a pedophile and never know).

I would try to have a meeting with my neighbours, show them the files on this guy and let them know he is living just a few meters away from their kids. Maybe even getting the local school involved would be a good idea, they could help to teach the children how to be aware of this kind of predators and to tell their parents about anything that happens to them, a friend or something they see.

There was a case of child abuse in a city near where I live a couple of years ago, a friend of mine worked as a teacher at the school the boy attended, he told me that the proactive policies of the principal really helped.

Since you know who he is and where he lives, you have the advantage of not fighting a random rapist. You have your problem right across the street. I would be quite angry if that kind of guy thought he had a right to live near my kids. I'm usually a very calmed, some may even say liberal, kind of guy, but some things just won't fly. Try to gather some of the other parents and, as was suggested earlier, pay this guy a visit. Let him know that if anything happens to any of the neighbourhood kids, no matter how "innocent" he may claim to be, you'll have his head on a plate. I would also mail him copies of my shooting and kick boxing trophies.
 
After reading this yesterday, and seeing a segment on a small child kidnapped and raped in Baltimore, I visited the Maryland sex offender registry, and keyed in my zip code. To my surprise and horror, I found that two live in my zip code. One in Hicks MD, and one about five miles away, on Kirkwood Shop RD. My little brother has told me about people driving through the area, some cars actually turning into our drive way when they saw him outside playing, either by himself or with my youngest sister. Thank God they backed out. I've seen too many cars doing this in our driveway, too many to have been lost. My little brother has a thing now where he carries a big stick everywhere he goes. Thank God again. Anytime he sees a car he doesn't recognize, he waves his stick around. Well, he's still here, and knock on wood, he always will be. It's a shame that we have to live like this, these people cannot change, no matter what is cut off, no matter what amount of psychological counseling they receive, no matter what time they serve. The fact that these people get any help from anyone just turns my stomach.


What about the rights of the kids, that's what I'd like to know.
 
Because of the record of recidivisim for predatory sexual crimes, there should be no parole. Sentances should be for life, period. Megan's Law and everything else associated with all this should not be an issue. One way door to prison, no good behavior, nothing. Like a roach motel, they go in alive and leave in a coffin. The track record of repeat offenses after letting them out after time served is too poor to justify continuing doing so.
 
unfortunately we in Oregon do not have a state wide web based registry of sex offenders, however some counties do have a web based registry; however, none of the counties are even remotely close to me and I know in my county and surrounding counties there are a few sex offenders, and not the ones that got caught for statuatory rape. So I will have to keep an eye on the wife's grandkids when they come up for the summer.
 
lizardman_u said:
we had a situation similar to this as the law in Oregon requires the public to be informed if a sexual predator moves into his/her neighborhood or surrounding neighborhoods. Oregon State Police trooper brings to my house the notice complete with photo of said "sexual predator" moving in a few houses down, the scarier part is that the person in question never did move in he simply gave a false adress (the house down the street from my wife and I) and disappeared, so now instead of knowing where he lives so that preventative measures could be taken like Jsmatos situation no one but himself knows where he is so he is free to prey again :mad:
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I've been wondering about this since I read it...

Have you called the police to notify them that he isn't living at that address? I discussed this matter with my friend, and she told me that every once in awhile her POS scumbag disappears for a week or two. I told her that it's her responsibility to notify the detectives when this occurs and demand that they provide her with an updated address of where he is staying. I told her to follow up and make sure he's there. As I see it, the onus is on us to protect the children in our areas. If the police aren't doing their due diligence, then it's our responsibility to make them do it. We need to know where these people are located at all times. I will follow up with my friend to make sure that she is staying on top of everything. As I see it, if you know that this scum has disappeared and you haven't checked into it, then you are also responsible if anything happens wherever he relocated because unlike you, they haven't been notified of the danger.

I appreciate the advice everyone is giving. I agree that our kids need to be educated about good and bad touching. My friend is a stay-at-home mother, so her children are always with her, or, on rare occassion ;), her husband. I've thought about contacting the media. I want to see how everything works out. I need to look into the statutes regarding proximity to parks, schools, etc... and see if anything has been violated. I'll certainly keep everyone informed on how everything goes. We can call this our "Test case with Pedophile, POS, vermin." :barf:
 
funny thing is, was the police (or rather an officer friend of mine) that told me he never showed up and just vanished off of the radar....

dangit and I had just cleaned and oiled and sharpened my spey blade, and my other neighbor was gonna loan me his "elasticator"




ps. last sentence, however poorly structured, was meant as a bit of commic relief. ;)
 
Lizardman, you don't have to leave a disclaimer for that last sentence... sounds perfectly ok to me.
 
Mongo said:
Lizardman, you don't have to leave a disclaimer for that last sentence... sounds perfectly ok to me.
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You can alwys tell who has young children......
 
Well, I would reccomend a couple of things.
1. Tell ALL you're nieghbors, even if they dont have children about this guy. Its one more set of eyes watching his sorry hide.
2. Tell all the children to scream if he approaches them. Have you ever heard a 5 y/o girl scream? Its ear piercing, will scare the crap outta him, and will alert all surrounding people of the danger.
3. Intimidaion is a key factor here. I would grab the friend you're talking about and walk down his sidewalk with her while hes outside. Carry the biggest legal folder, or any other legal weapon, and start talking loudly about how you love kids, and if anything ever happened to one of em you would hunt down the perp and mutilate him, all the while flicking this enourmous knife quickly and nervously, possibly with some other threatening motions not directed at any specific person. This clearly shows that he will get facked up if he tries anything suspicious.
Try to get other nieghbors to do this is a slightly different fashion too. This shows that not only you, but you're entire nieghborhood is watching him, and theres no way he will be able to do anything.
4. Do not hesitate. I doubt a parent would but if you see ANYTHING relating him to a child, immediatley confront him with a weapon (not deployed right away, but ready)and tell him to get the fack away.
5. Watch him. Whenever you have a quick minue, peek out and see what he is doing. Get binoculars and try to watch him inside his house, you may find some things out that can help you against him. See if he is watching the children from inside his house. I think that is grounds for confrontation.
Stay safe, watch him, and let him now if he tries something he will get facked up bad.

Snow
 
Sorry, but I disagree with most of you.

No one is going to approach a child whose parent is present at a park or anywhere else. It's up to us to be diligent, plugged in parents that pay attention and protect our children by being there.

If people let their small children wander the neighborhoods and parks unattended, I don't want to see their sorry faces on tv when their kids turn up abused/missing/dead.

If he's operating within the law, he has a right to be there. The FDLE website is there to give us the knowledge so we can make informed decisions about where we live and let our children play.
 
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