What would you like to see in a knife test?

:thumbup: I agree with this and also appreciate your dedication to your product, testing it yourself for your own purposes.

I became a maker to have full control over my gear. Backpacks, knives, clothing and various other accoutrements. My personal knives get used hard. Digging, chopping, prying, hammering, battoning.... sometimes even cutting.:eek: Sure, I could bring all the various tools designed for those tasks but I don't want to... I want my knife. I know what constitutes abuse and I really don't care. I have buckets of broken blades... thats how you learn and grow as a tool maker. If you aren't failing, you aren't learning. If you don't know when your knife will fail, you don't know your knife.

Mr. Marchland, what about "limit"-testing - pushing each of the various aspects/properties of the knife to its limits as described in my previous post? (e.g. cutting through conventional materials until the knife loses its edge)

For the car example, obviously each car will have the test tailored to its specific uses, but you might push the engine of each car to the limits of performance, maximum speed and rate of acceleration, wheel traction, braking ability, resistance to the elements, etc. The "limit" in such tests includes a certain level of "destruction" though perhaps not catastrophic failure of the entire automobile. Let's not shoot bullets through the ferrari's lack of armor plating since that is not one of its supposed properties, but we might throw rain and hail and rocks at it... *shrug*
Or perhaps we could test the limits of sexiness in the women that we can attract with each car ;) Video or photographic documentation would be essential for this, of course.

My favorite thing about limit-testing knives is the surprise performance level of products NOT marketed for "hard use", knives devoid of hyperbole, knives like a $10 Mora... of course the skill-level of the user can greatly effect the limits of knife's performance, which is why it is better that the tester be of average skill-level, another control.

I am all about pushing the limits. The problem lies in the definition of those limits. I can't use Moras for my style. They are too weak in the lateral stress dept... I have friends who use the heck out of Moras... I've tried to like them but they just don't cut it (Pun intended). If I were to review one as a bush blade, it would fail. I respect Busse for the abuse their blades can take but they just don't float my boat, either. I needed something between a Mora and a Busse.... lol.... that narrowed it down.:rolleyes:

I think we are on the same page. My only issue is when test results get misinterpreted. How many people would miss out on Moras, if they took my opinion as absolute?

Rick
 
I'd like to see some pictures and even a little write up with a video. Use, extreme use, or testing, it's all good. Don't start wailing away on it with a hammer until you have already figured out everything you want to know.
 
Great stuff everyone! I'm listening closely and taking notes.

On the subject of testing your own knives I have to say I sure was scared when I put my all into a hardwood pallet with one of my knives. I knew I had to go all out otherwise I wouldn't be satisified and it turned out great, it felt really good!
 
I would say test the knives within what they were designed to do.

If it's labeled Hard Use etc then anything is game IMO including destruction.

If it's and EDC type blade then do EDC type tasks including light prying etc and so on. :)
 
Daniel.... the best thing you can do is find weaknesses in your knives. Not sure how far you've taken your testing... but I suggest making 5-10 knives specifically for testing. Make sure to save at least 2 for edge thickness testing. Grind them down thinner and thinner until you start to lose performance. You may feel that making knives for testing is a PITA but what you learn from them will make you a better craftsman. Everytime I introduce a new steel to my line I test atleast 3-4 to destruction.

Rick
 
Daniel.... the best thing you can do is find weaknesses in your knives. Not sure how far you've taken your testing... but I suggest making 5-10 knives specifically for testing. Make sure to save at least 2 for edge thickness testing. Grind them down thinner and thinner until you start to lose performance. You may feel that making knives for testing is a PITA but what you learn from them will make you a better craftsman. Everytime I introduce a new steel to my line I test atleast 3-4 to destruction.

Rick

That sounds great, I really like the idea of edge testing especially since I am new to all of this. Thinking about all of it.

Thank you!
 
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