What would you put in the perfect machete?

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I am in search of the perfect machete. My questions to makers are: What steal would you use. What blade geometry? what length? What blade shape? Handle style and material. What else?

I think with a compilation of input from makers I will have one made and hack the living daylights out of every thing I see.

Thanks for the input.
 
The handle would have a way to wrap around the lower end on my hand so that as I swing the blade it holds itself to my hand and I dont have to hang on for dear life all day.
 
Cool thread, I've been thinking about this too because machetes are so darn handy and don't look real hard to build. I recently picked up a cheap Harbor Frieght machete to mess around with till I get my ideas straight.

This is only what I've read, but I would look at 5160 for the steel. It's widely recommended for big blades that can take a beating, can be differentially tempered to help that, and takes a good edge. Although lots of perfectly good machetes have been made out of low-alloy steels (probably similar to 1075 or 1040?), and have lived through abuse just fine. I'd be curious to see how a more corrosion-resistant steel like D2 would hold up. In any case I think about 1/8" thickness would be strong, light and flexible enough to cut and slash real well.

The classic straight back, short-belly profile seems ok to me. Maybe 20% wider at the belly than at the hilt. For length I would think no less than 12", no more than 18". Even 18" seems kind of long to me unless you're going to be harvesting hay or something. Where I'm at, we have a lot more thick brush than we do tall grass so I don't need that much length. I'm going to start with 16" on mine and see how it handles, carries on my hip or pack, etc. I suspect I may end up cutting it down to 14 or 15".

I'm not a huge fan of those enclosed "D" handles, I guess I just haven't tried one that fit my hand quite right. It has to have a lanyard, preferably made of webbing material instead of paracord. So it doesn't cut into your hand. I like to use my lanyards wrapped under the back edge of my hand, across the back, and around my thumb. I learned that trick here somewhere and it's really secure but doesn't restrict your wrist if you adjust the length right.

An integral guard, and birds-head pommel are big plus too. Full-tang of course, epoxied and pinned. It has to be robust and not fall or slip out of your hand during hard work when you're all sweaty. I think mild finger-grooves and some checkering on any typical handle material would work.

There's a lot you could do with a machete sheath, there's so much material there to work with. I think at the minimum it should have a pocket for a diamond stone or small file. Maybe a small utility knife too, kind of how kukri's come with a small knife. You could go hog wild and make the sheath into a whole survival kit if you want. Someone around here just made a nice "plain" leather sheath for his Ontario, makes it look like a $200 knife :D

The first 3-4" of blade could be serrated; I'm not usually into that but I think it fits on a machete. Likewise, sawteeth like are found on folding saws, on the spine, would probably work pretty well. On thin stock you could even set a kerf to the teeth and make them cut like a real saw. Sounds like a lot of work but I think it could be done. All that ragged stuff on the blade means you'd need a hard plastic liner in the sheath.

You'd need a goog long forge to heat-treat the thing; maybe a fire built in a trough in the dirt would work? I've seen ones like that on other sites, pretty cool.

It occurs to me that I haven't said anything new at all :o The basic design is pretty well figured out after all these years, I guess. Still waiting to see a nice satin-finished example with stag slabs on it though :D
 
The handle design that comes to my mind would be something along the lines of a modern ski pole handle. It has that soft flexible d ring that is form fit and split in two so you can get your hand in and out easily but feels very secure.
 
im thinking about forging out a machette now. i had a bamboo machette but it got lost somewhere. it was long and slender. got it for free. it wasnt too thick but it was long. it was probably about 30" long. i want to make another one like it but i dont have the forge to do it in. well to heat treat it that is. if i were you i would use something like 1/8" steel. find a leaf spring place and get a full piece of 5160 that hasnt been drilled or curved, if your going to forge it out or if you can find it thin enough you can do stock removal on it. first thing tho is to draw it out on paper full size and then modify it until you like it and cut out a replica of it with plywood. then if you like it then break out the steel and get to work. post pics of your progress.
 
Oh, and the handle would have to work for both hands, because you always have to switch off after a while.
 
I would like something really corrosion resistant in a machete. I've been thoroughly soaked while dove hunting in the mornings before from simply walking around in waist high scrub. But then again, my favorite machete was actually a m249 SAW. That was fun:jerkit:
 
I would like something really corrosion resistant in a machete. :
Perhaps a coating, like a black paint?

A good machete can take a real beating.
If the thing bends, (and they all do after a while), just bend it back.
I think a good machete would have some extra steel near the tip so as to add a bit more weight to the swing.
I like the idea of 5160 steel too, as thats a good steel for this type of use.

I would want it very easy to sharpen.
Just a file is would all you would need to have around to true up the edge in the field.

A nice thick spine would be good, something dead soft that you can wack to batten firewood with.
 
Hi guys, Thanks for all the responses. I find one thing very interesting. I started this post because although I own many 1, 2 and 3 hundred dollar knives which I use occasionally by far the sharp thing I use the most is my $15 Barteaux machete. I would also think that arguably the most used sharp outdoor tool on the planet is the machete.

With all this worldwide use, it is very curious that the majority of the advice I am reading is to buy a $20 machete. Can it be true that the best money can buy is $20 worth of steel? If it is than so be it. But I would think with all the design and innovation genius I have witnessed here on blade forum someone would have come up with the ultimate in machete sweetness.

Is there no point or profit in machetes as fine craftsmanship? Is there no better design.

I long for a great machete much as I longed for a great camp knife (which of course there are many wonderful ones these days).

The challenge. Bring me a great machete and I will deliver you the world. (well maybe just my gratitude and a check, But still,)

The world of sharp things needs, no deserves, a great machete.
 
When you attach the term "Perfect" to any project you are bound to create discussion.
I made this one:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455297&highlight=bottle+opener
For a customer last year. It has a lot of different functions, which is what the customer wanted. Most machete are too long. Keep it short and tip heavy. As several have pointed out, The handle is half the task in designing a big chopper. If it is wrong it will tell you fast!
Stacy
 
Perhaps you should look into a bainite heat treat, rather than martensite.
 
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