What's going on with the Benchmade Griptilians?

When I buy a pen 10x/100x more expensive than some chinese or BIC pen i don't expect a refill to be off-centered. If it is it's a flaw.
When I buy a so called premium notebook I don't expect pages to be off centered. It they are the company is in serious trouble because of the flaws.
When I buy an MP3-player for a couple of hundreds bucks I don't expect buttons to be off-centered or sticky. If they are you guys be the first complaining about that over internet.
When I buy a watch I don't expect crown to be off-centered or rattle. If it is it's a flaw.
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I can continue the list with almost anything ... except the knives. Off-centered blade with play? Dull as hell out of the box? Curved blade? Asymmetric grind? Who cares if it's made in USA!
If a blade if off-centered it means there is something wrong with construction. The blade itself can be curved (I had such an AFCK). I bought the straight blade why i got the curved one?
The problem can be with liners or washers and can get worse (if you use your knives of course) and it will. The community is yet to accept that the knife manufacturing as it is right now is
full of inadmissible flaws.

Exactly, I don't like complaining either but cmon.They are making an ass load off them griptilians. Please center them. It was really bad with the coyote tan one I got. The scales are different and have a narrower opening so less room on either side of the blade when it closes. I was unable to adjust it out and remove the rubbling on scale. Finally i shaved both sides down to give it more room. I don't think its too much to ask for. I payed $120 for that mini grip, coyote tan, D2. Ridiculous if you ask me. Then you get the jerks on here that crucify you for saying anything about beloved Benchmade. Excuse me. This is here to empower consumers allowing them to make decisions about what they buy. If you're one that doesnt like to see the complaints, don't click on it. Simple as that.
 
Just got my Ritter Grip in M390 in today. Perfectly centered, reasonably smooth & shaving sharp. No complaints here. Going to order a full-sized version in the next few weeks & I'll chime in on it here when it arrives.

707sequel, how is that D2 Mini-Grip doing? Centered or just not rubbing anymore? Did you consider sending it in? Tried anything else to center it? Would you consider selling it? I really want to take some D2 to work with me & the Cabela's were all half-serrated last time I looked.
 
Just got my Ritter Grip in M390 in today. Perfectly centered, reasonably smooth & shaving sharp. No complaints here. Going to order a full-sized version in the next few weeks & I'll chime in on it here when it arrives.

707sequel, how is that D2 Mini-Grip doing? Centered or just not rubbing anymore? Did you consider sending it in? Tried anything else to center it? Would you consider selling it? I really want to take some D2 to work with me & the Cabela's were all half-serrated last time I looked.

It's doing well. Since I shaved the scales down it doesnt rub. I polished one of the washers extra along with the liner to pull it over more. It helped a little along with Keyman's way to center. Wouldnt want to sell it. D2 is awesome stuff. It takes a really keen polished edge. My favorite steel by far
 
Just got my Ritter Grip in M390 in today. Perfectly centered, reasonably smooth & shaving sharp. No complaints here.
I have Doug Ritter with M390 and it's not perfect. The blade is just thin. It's 0.01 thinner than it should be but it is so it's just impossible to get rid of the blade flex without any serious touch. In this case you need either thicker washers (good luck with this as washers is one of the BM problems in my opinion) or just live with it :) I'm looking at my $200 headphone amplifier writing this and I just cannot believe that I would have to disassemble it and replace some transistors to make it work out of the box.
 
My experience is thats what you get from benchmade. Maybe perfect maybe not, you can send it in or work on it a little yourself. All i have now is a 940-1 and it wasnt centered but i was able to adjust the pivot and get it pretty close. I prefer spyderco and ZT that class of production knife
 
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707sequel, how is that D2 Mini-Grip doing? Centered or just not rubbing anymore? Did you consider sending it in? Tried anything else to center it? Would you consider selling it? I really want to take some D2 to work with me & the Cabela's were all half-serrated last time I looked.

Check the website again :D
 
I just bought a Large and Mini Griptillian and I have to return them both! The blade centering was so bad it interfered with the opening and closing of the knife (the Large was really bad). Has anyone else had a similar problem? 2 out of 2 is a pretty bad failure rate. I really liked the Mini (except for the blade centering), but now I'm concerned about the quality, and whether or not I should buy another one, or spend my money elsewhere?

The quality does vary, unfortunately. My 551 H2O that was stolen had an axis lock that did not fully engage because the specifications of the lock's housing were apparently off, it was like 90% engaged. Worked well enough but it obviously wasn't a full lock like my 553. Hopefully it will close on the thief's fingers.

but yeah, that's how mass production is, thing's are going to be off, especially with a popular model like the Griptilian. Benchmade should be held to higher standards but there's nothing we can really do about it.
 
The quality does vary, unfortunately. My 551 H2O that was stolen had an axis lock that did not fully engage because the specifications of the lock's housing were apparently off, it was like 90% engaged. Worked well enough but it obviously wasn't a full lock like my 553. Hopefully it will close on the thief's fingers.

but yeah, that's how mass production is, thing's are going to be off, especially with a popular model like the Griptilian. Benchmade should be held to higher standards but there's nothing we can really do about it.

Benchmades are held to a higher standard. That is what attracted many of us to them years ago. Granted, the production numbers are much higher now than they were 15 years ago, but there is no excuse...

There will always be some that aren't perfect. That happens with anything, and it doesn't matter who makes them. That said, when you can look at lower end knives costly substantially less that consistantly have centered blades, and good QC, there is absolutely no reason for off centered blades, and poor QC.

It isn't just Benchmade though. It seems to be an issue with other makers as well. I have spent a fair amount of time in the Buck s/f. I have 4 or 5 of their knives and have zero complaints, and I have a lot of respect for the family. There have been complaints there as well that the quality isn't what it use to be, but the standard comment is, " Buck will take care of it. Send it in "..
I've seen it so much it irritates me. I commend a company for having great CS, and BM's CS is unbeatable, but people don't want to buy a new knife, and send it away for two weeks while it gets fixed.

If it is a matter of production being to fast, slow it down a little, and make sure the knives that go out the door are done right. I know it is all about the bottom line and making money, but a reputation that took many years to build, can be destroyed or tarnished quickly.

I still have 7 BM's in the drawer, and over the last 20 years, I have had roughly 10-12 others. To BM's credit, all except the fixed blades have been Axis locks, and I have never had an Omega spring break, or any other need for repair, and out of all of them, only one has a blade off center. The only time I used BM's CS was because I wanted a blade switched out, and they were great.
 
Its kinda funny. I started buying benchmades cus a buddy said they had good quality control and awsome customer service. I picked up a couple ( i have a 940 and a g10 limited run griptilian ) and they where great. Then i picked up a regular grip in tan with the black d2 blade thinking that could be my edc/ beater. When i got it the centering was way off, as in rubbing. But the biggest issue was that there was vertical play, but not from the lockup. It was a really solid lock but you could feel and hear the liners moving inside the handle. I sent benchmade an email asking about service or if i should just return it. I waited till i only had a couple days left till i couldnt return it anymore before i finally did. I still havnt recived a response from benchmade so i dont think ill be buying another.
 
It's kind of sad to watch the decline of an industry icon, such as what Benchmade is experiencing. For example, I just traded up for a very good 735BT Ares from 2001. What came out of the box was a rock solid knife, and the build quality is right where I'd expect it to be. I had to adjust the blade to my liking, and once done it's fine. This is the first knife in a long while that doesn't need to go up to Oregon City for tuning. I am sorry to read that so many of us have problems with their hard-earned purchases, and the newest offerings are nice, but the only one that interests me is the new 485 'Valet'. I fully expect when I get mine it will have to go up for something to be fixed. The last half a dozen I bought did, and it's not a good thing to expect. So in my opine I'm seeking out the oldies but goodies...they keep me happy. :)
 
I have bought 3 Axis BMs in recent months, all are fine. Maybe I am lucky but I find it hard to believe all the complaints.
If you are going to post a gripe you need to post a photo to show the issue otherwise it is just a bunch of folks complaining vie the internet.
One knife,HK14715, had a little vertical play and I sent to to BM and they fixed it and had it back in a week.
 
Received a mini griptilian from the knifecenter.com yesterday. Blade is perfectly centered. Only surprise was the height of the handle was smaller than expected making it hard to 'grip' tilian.

Overall, very happy with it and expect to carry and use it a lot.
 
I had 2 705's that had off center blades. One was very noticable, it rubbed on the scale. I fiddled with it and got it not to rub but it was still way off. The other just barely off.

I lost them. :mad: I lost one about 6 years ago at a tree stand. The other I just can't find, I am hoping it's around here somewhere but I've looked everywhere. I have a lot of packs and sometimes things get left in the pockets. I've looked in all of them though.

I really loved the 705. They quit making it though. I want to replace it and was looking hard at the griptillian but I don't want another off center blade. The 707 handle doesn't seem very grippy but it's as close to the 705 as I can get I guess.

I can't make up my mind on which one to get. I mostly own spydercos and a few kershaws. Almost all have perfectly centered blades. The only off one is one tenacious and one leek. I think the liner lock pushes the blade a little. They aren't off by much though.

The 705 was my only benchmade. It really filled a niche in my folder/edc needs. The size was perfect for me and I loved the way the handle felt in my hands. It was a real user, the one that didn't rub on the liner anyway.

I really like the smooth way the benchmades open and I want another one. I refuse to keep one that rubs on the liner though. If I get one from amazon at least it will be easy to return.

What to do . . . what to do . . .
 
The 705's are great knives. My first BM was a pre-production 705 with an ATS-34 blade... I carried it every day for a few years.

I actually like the blade shape of the 707 better than the 705. Just wish the handles were G-10 like the 705, instead of aluminum...
 
i have 2 large ritter m390 grips and both perfect center zero play in any direction
 
I received a new 555HG three days ago and the fit and finish are nearly perfect, zero blade play in any direction and the blade is centered when closed.

Jim
 
The 705's are great knives. My first BM was a pre-production 705 with an ATS-34 blade... I carried it every day for a few years.

I actually like the blade shape of the 707 better than the 705. Just wish the handles were G-10 like the 705, instead of aluminum...

I think that's why the (blade shape) 705 was phased out in favor of the 707. On the other hand, BKC made many fewer of the 705 compared to the 710. If a model wasn't selling very well it was set aside and discontinued. Unfortunately, just try to find a PE satin 705. :rolleyes:
 
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