What's missing Here??

waynorth

waynorth

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Nice knives!! A 440C Stockman, with Balloon bolsters, and Ebony handles. Pretty Classy - almost!:rolleyes:
And a CV swayback, nicely Bosified! I love carrying and using that little guy! Almost beautiful, but flawed!:eek:
They have suffered the ignominy, the embarrassment of losing their crowning touch; their flash of identity.
Where is a cop without HIS shield??:confused:
How embarrassing is it when a strong wind snatches your toupee?? (No I don't have one:p):eek:!:D

All for want of a pin or two. Come on Case! What's up Canal Street?? Pin them on like the Good Lord intended!

I don't know where the Case shield went. I took it out of one pair of pants this morning, to put in my walking shorts and NO PIN!!! Searched all over - it is G.O.N.E!
The CSC, well I opened my package a year or so ago, and "ting", it hit the desk! Groan:mad:! Send it back - glue it back - send it back - glue it back - I finally threw it in a drawer in disgust!
What is it with not pinning shields? I know, I know - it's cheaper, and they gotta stay competitive.
Well, your employee is not ALWAYS going to remember to wash the peanut butter off his or her fingers! Or the degreasing process might miss a blob somewhere:(!
So how much does it cost to receive the knife, glue in a new shield and ship it back?? Never mind the embarrassment. At least I'd be embarrassed!
The Italians say "Porca Miseria!" Literally "Pig Misery!"
I feel as miserable as a pig, looking at these defrocked, these desecrated, these embarrassed knives!
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I'll just have to fix them, that's all!
Now where's that Hammer?? No Joanne, the BIG one!!
 
Charlie, I think you better get a hold of some of this...

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...or consider shield-less shadows


:p
 
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Charlie, it's like a beautiful woman with a huge zit right in the middle of her forehead.

You don't see anything but the pimple.
 
Charlie,fill them wil some enamel,or ?
I like a pinned shield,too.
what are ya' gonna do ? fougheddaboudit'...
-Vince ;)
 
I can understand why they do it. Especially high volume guys like Case, Buck etc. The smaller ones with small runs that charge $100+ per knife ... no.

For the bigger ones, I have had other manufactured goods with glued emblems that have never failed. The knife manufacturers might want to look at what the others are doing.

That CSC looks especially sad w/o a shield. I feel for you :(
 
There is a castable low temperature alloy that used to be sold for forming shields in place (amongst other things of course). I think Koval used to carry it - perhaps Jantz carries it now? Hmm, can't find it. Anyone remember this stuff? This is basically what I'm talking about: http://www.alchemyextrusions.com/fusible/default.asp
 
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An older case penknife lost the shield. I emailed them and they sent a replacement to me in the mail. Shouldn't have fallen out in the first place, but they took care of it. This was in the last year or so.

They do look really "wrong" without the shield... good luck!
 
A side note: My AAPK Canal Street shield also fell off. On the reverse side of the shield it said "RANCHER." Those shields came from a run of very nice bone handled knives which Schrade did before they closed. Canal Street must have bought them at the Schrade bankruptcy auction. There was a RANCHER & a FARMER stockman, a MINER & a LUMBERMAN single and double blade trapper, and a FISHERMAN muskrat. Apparently there is some evidence that the great bone Schrade used on their good stuff in the last years was done by BOKER in Germany. Sorry for hijack.
 
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

In this case, for want of a nail the customer was lost.
 
i hate the cheap crappy shields they put on knives lately. wish they would leave them off. flat out won't buy a current case with standard shield.
 
I had this happen with a red bone peanut. I wrote Case and received a letter from customer support with three sheilds. Each was a different style. I was pleased with their response, but like you, sad that it fell off.
I had this happen with a S&M knife as well.
 
knarfeng said:
for want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

in this case, for want of a nail the customer was lost.
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amen!!
 
I think it's a little harsh vilifying a company simply for glueing their shields. It's only recently that the practice of pinning has come into vogue again. Heck, try to find a single Old Timer, or for that matter ANY Schrade made between 1960 and 2004 with a pinned shield, it's not likely you'll find any. Yet strangely, everyone still seems to love the Old Timers. Go figure.
It's pretty well known that Canal Street had some issues with the initial run of those knives with regards to the pin adhesive, but it did seem that it was resolved by the second run. Heck they were nice enough to throw the different shields in at no additional cost since they had a bunch left over from the old Schrade days. Now in the case of a company such as Canal Street, who use a round brass shield whose design really doesn't fit with a pin, would the additional cost of having to hire and train someone, and set up equipment and jigs for an additional work station, justify pinning the handful of custom shields that might be attached over a year's time? Hey, I'm a big fan of pinned shields myself, but I can see where a manufacturer would prefer not to add to the cost of each knife, both from the consumer's standpoint and the company's.

Eric
 
ea42 said:
I think it's a little harsh vilifying a company simply for glueing their shields. It's only recently that the practice of pinning has come into vogue again. Heck, try to find a single Old Timer, or for that matter ANY Schrade made between 1960 and 2004 with a pinned shield, it's not likely you'll find any. Yet strangely, everyone still seems to love the Old Timers. Go figure.
It's pretty well known that Canal Street had some issues with the initial run of those knives with regards to the pin adhesive, but it did seem that it was resolved by the second run. Heck they were nice enough to throw the different shields in at no additional cost since they had a bunch left over from the old Schrade days. Now in the case of a company such as Canal Street, who use a round brass shield whose design really doesn't fit with a pin, would the additional cost of having to hire and train someone, and set up equipment and jigs for an additional work station, justify pinning the handful of custom shields that might be attached over a year's time? Hey, I'm a big fan of pinned shields myself, but I can see where a manufacturer would prefer not to add to the cost of each knife, both from the consumer's standpoint and the company's.

Eric
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I had hoped I was not vilifying the whole company, Eric; just their pinlessness! I think the criticism is constructive!

Anyway, I was in the production business, manufacturing wood lawn furniture that a friend and I invented. I set up a factory, including the production line, and once we spent a bit of money to set up a step like that, the cost was reduced to pennies.
(That company bought me a lot of knives, when I sold it!)
 
"Sorry about your shield Roland! "
It really is not a big deal having to epoxy the shield back on, but the disappointment i felt on opening up the final packaging was huge.
Even the finest knife looks ugly with a hole where the shield should be.
my second reaction was "What !, a (once) glued shield on a knife of this price !!"
We are an emotional lot when it comes to our treasured knives.
roland
 
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