What's the biggest deal killer for you?

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There are so many different opinions and preferences about knives on these forums that I thought I would ask; what kills it for you when you look at a knife your thinking of spending your hard earned money for?

Can you put up with a little blade play? Tip up/down only carry? Too much/not enough jimping? Too heavy? Not centered? Fit & finish? Blade steel/handle materials? Lock type? Too big/small? Price?

This applies to both fixed, and folding.

For me it would be (in order of importance):

Overall build quality
F&F
Serrations
Handle too small
Blade under 3 1/4"
Tip down only
Lock back
Price

Of course there are always exceptions, but those features will in most cases immediately kill a deal for me.

So what is is that makes you say: "it's nice, but I'll have to pass"?
 
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First of all, it's price. However much I want a folder, if I feel it's too much, it's a deal breaker.
 
I have learnt the expensive way, but unfortunately I can only, strictly and solely carry folders tip-DOWN. Perhaps because of my XS hands. So the biggest deal-breaker for me unfortunately is: tip-up only. And yes, that is freaking frustrating and annoying.

Also, I would like to say that an obvious deal-breaker is when some smug on the World Wide Web ships (CON)US-only. Not in the least place here in the Exchange too. All those American Knife Nuts that can brag about "this great community" but at the same time exclude the rest of the world of this "great community" when selling or giving away a knife. Of course there are plenty of American individuals and shops that ship international (with The Knife Connection having the lowest international shipping costs) but it is a deal breaker of course for the rest of the world and a freaking annoying one as well. By the way: this ridiculous fear for shipping international (a service that is older than the US itself) is solely and only displayed by some Americans, never I have heard from an other nationality this reluctancy for international shipping, not from Canadians, nor Kiwis, nor Aussies, nor Brits, nor Japs. Anyway, sorry for my mini-rant.
 
Simply this: Made in China is a deal killer.

Yes, I'm aware that some knives are well made, etc etc. But generally I don't trust the Chinese workers to get it right in a high quality way that the American workers would. And I also don't trust the Chinese material/metal qualities for various reasons.

That would be my #1 deal breaker.
 
By the way: this ridiculous fear for shipping international (a service that is older than the US itself) is solely and only displayed by some Americans, never I have heard from an other nationality this reluctancy for international shipping, not from Canadians, nor Kiwis, nor Aussies, nor Brits, nor Japs. Anyway, sorry for my mini-rant.

Off topic: you're right. I've travelled the world and the U.S. Citizens almost don't even realize there's a big wide huge world out there. It's funny. They want to send military to any shithole nation to act as police but don't want to look down the street to see what's beyond the horizon.

On topic: blade shape. I can't stand wharncliff blade.
 
Size.
I couldn't count how many times I've thought "man if there was a 3 inch version of this, I'd buy it in a heartbeat". I'm not at all a fan of big, overbuilt, chunky folders. I prefer sleek and slim. Any folder I buy is always for an EDC context. I just don't see the need for anything over 3.5 inches. Of course your milage may vary.

Also, recurve, serrations, and tanto are traits I usually avoid. They're too annoying to resharpen.
 
^^^This right here:thumbup:


The max I'll go for an EDC is 3.25". Anything else means a longer and proportionally bulkier handle, which I hate, and the extra blade length really isn't necessary for my use.
 
Off topic: you're right. I've travelled the world and the U.S. Citizens almost don't even realize there's a big wide huge world out there. It's funny. They want to send military to any shithole nation to act as police but don't want to look down the street to see what's beyond the horizon.

On topic: blade shape. I can't stand wharncliff blade.

Well that got political fast.....

The reason some choose not to offer international shipping is because they have every right to. It doesn't matter the reasoning. Not sure how you made the jump to "and every American is ignorant of the rest of the world":confused:
 
I need a 4 inch (ish) blade with a handle that at least tries to conform to my hand with a blade that can be easily sharpened and can hold an edge (I'm on an S35VN roll these days) and isn't a CRK. Love the design, not a fan of the ergos.
 
I believe the lack of intl shipping is due to anti-terrorism laws-----go to most websites and items like scopes---sights---gun parts etc are forbidden to be exported---I'm thinking knives are part of that.


The deal killer for me is a lack of an AXIS lock-------I just have no use for folders that don't have one. Maybe when the patent expires I'll have more choices.
 
^^^This right here:thumbup:


The max I'll go for an EDC is 3.25". Anything else means a longer and proportionally bulkier handle, which I hate, and the extra blade length really isn't necessary for my use.

See that's what I find interesting. The different preferences people have.

I'm exactly the opposite. I don't like to go under 3.25", and prefer between 3.5" and 4" due to handle size. I find the smaller handles too uncomfortable. Maybe because I'm 6'3" and 225 lbs. I don't have huge hands, but they ain't small either.
 
Well that got political fast.....

The reason some choose not to offer international shipping is because they have every right to. It doesn't matter the reasoning. Not sure how you made the jump to "and every American is ignorant of the rest of the world":confused:
Offcourse they have the right to. He's not trying to deny them that right. Doesn't mean he can't be annoyed by it though. He's got just as much right to be annoyed as they do to not ship outside of the US.

For me dealkillers:
Crappy steel
Poor cutting grinds
No lefthanded options (mainly pocket clip)
 
I believe the lack of intl shipping is due to anti-terrorism laws-----go to most websites and items like scopes---sights---gun parts etc are forbidden to be exported---I'm thinking knives are part of that.


The deal killer for me is a lack of an AXIS lock-------I just have no use for folders that don't have one. Maybe when the patent expires I'll have more choices.

Most likely when it expires they'll make a small change to it and re-apply for another patent. Locking in the Axis lock for another who-knows-how-long years.
 
price, because i never have enough money to buy every knife i want...
once that is out of the way:

usefulness

yes, i mostly have users, and though one might argue that you don't really need another one once you have a good one, let's just roll with it.
i want a knife that suits my needs, is legal to carry and only after that i will go through things like, steel, lock mechanism (unless not fitting the need) etc.
 
Can it be wave modded?
 
See that's what I find interesting. The different preferences people have.

I'm exactly the opposite. I don't like to go under 3.25", and prefer between 3.5" and 4" due to handle size. I find the smaller handles too uncomfortable. Maybe because I'm 6'3" and 225 lbs. I don't have huge hands, but they ain't small either.

I've got pretty big hands, but my fingers are thin so I can easily get a four finger grip on a smaller handle. I hate having lots of handle sticking out past the end of my hand.
 
1. Aesthetics...first and foremost, it is all about "how" it looks to me :rolleyes:
with the caveat see #2
2. Real.. vs fake, clone, ect.
2 1/2. Quality.. materials, as well as fit and finish.
3. Price.. This is always! a factor. But if I have to save up then so be it :)
 
Here are my biggest deal breakers:


If you were to trace a line around the handle of a knife, that line would need to be at least 12 inches long before I would consider purchasing that knife.

I won't purchase a folding knife that weighs more than 5 ounces and I won't purchase a fixed blade that weighs more than 7 ounces.

For LH folders, tip down is a no go. For RH folders, tip up is a no go. For IWB carry, high carrying pocket clips (where a lot of knife sticks out) are a no go. For pocket carry, deep carrying pocket clips are a no go.

I won't purchase knives with custom or proprietary pocket clips, especially machined/sculpted ones. I want to be able to switch out the clips and continue carrying my knife without skipping a beat if something were to happen to the existing clip. (That's why my Ultratech is the earlier model that used the CRK type pocket clip)

If the balance point of the knife isn't at least close to the finger choil, then that's a deal breaker. For a knife that sees use I prefer the balance point to be there.

I won't purchase a knife using the following damascus patterns:

Razor Wire
Bacon
Mosaic damascus with faces or the American flag
Firestorm
Random pattern
Hakkapella pattern damasteel
Twist
Diamondback
Ladder (if it doesn't have a tight pattern)
Reptilian
Typhoon
Cheetah
Fade
Blackout
Lizard
Intrepid
Sweep
Whiplash
Various San-Mai damascus types
Blued damascus with a deep purple or fade color - yuck.

I won't purchase a knife with the bolstered look on one side and plain Ti on the lock side. I also won't purchase a knife whose lock side is visually busy and chaotic.

I won't purchase a knife with the 66+ HRC steels like YRX7 or Maxamet or the super wear resistant steels like S110-V or ZDP.

I won't purchase a knife with a carbon fiber or copper beryllium blade. Too much to go wrong.

Blade inlays are a deal breaker for me as I'm too paranoid about something happening to the inlays as a result of use or temperature changes.

Camouflage, C-tek & tiger stripes do absolutely nothing for me and I actively avoid knives with that type of aesthetic. Anything "zombie" related is a total eyesore and I won't own a knife with any branding, marking or coloration to do with "zombies".

PVD and Cerakote type coatings look and feel like paint and they are deal breakers on a knife. If I buy a knife with a coated blade, it's going to be a proper boron carbide or titanium nitride DLC.

If a knife has metal handles they cannot be satin or stonewash finished because of the discomfort and slipperiness in use.

To me, anything with copper or brass is tacky & ugly and is to be avoided.

Skulls and skull imagery. Tacky & ugly.

"Moonglow" or various other glow in the dark inlays, scales or backspacers. Tacky & ugly.

Serrations and guthooks are deal breakers, as are awkward or nonfunctional compound grinds.

I didn't have a problem with exotic types of hardware earlier (spanner, tri-wing, other proprietary) but they are now deal breakers. The screws have to be Torx, flathead, Phillips or hex.

I won't purchase a hawkbill unless it's recurved. I won't purchase a tanto if it is recurved. I won't purchase a recurve if the recurve is too deep.



I have a lot more deal-breakers, but these are the ones that will completely and immediately remove a knife from my consideration.
 
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price, because i never have enough money to buy every knife i want...
once that is out of the way:

usefulness

yes, i mostly have users, and though one might argue that you don't really need another one once you have a good one, let's just roll with it.
i want a knife that suits my needs, is legal to carry and only after that i will go through things like, steel, lock mechanism (unless not fitting the need) etc.

I would never make that argument. My philosophy is: "what's need got to do with it?" LOL
 
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