What's the deal with Busse's INFI steel?

Keith Montgomery said:
INFI is NOT, I repeat NOT, either Carbon V or A8.
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Hey Keith, nice looking avatar knife.:thumbup: :D I met Rik at Blade last year and he is also a fellow Hoodlum on Ron Hood's forum. A nice guy too.;)
Scott
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Where do you guys come up with such nonsense?
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1-800-TROLL

My favorite was :

Larrin said:
...adequate edge retention
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The rest of it is amusing (non-existant corrosion resistance) but the edge retention part is so extreme it even stops being misinformation and becomes absurd, you might as well claim the knives are made out of doritos by the Kebler Elves.

Consider the following from Mike Turber :

"Jerry and I talked about doing a test at the Blade Show and we did just that. Unfortunately we could not make a big scene about it so we went out back and just whacked away at some 1" hemp rope. The test was a simple rope cutting test. He held the blade against the rope and pushed it through the hemp rope. Jerry wanted to show me that his basic line (Which I just picked up as a distributor) would do everything he claimed.
Up to this point all tests on Busse's knives where done in house without anyone outside of the Busse camp witnessing the results. Well not this time. We did this test right out in the open and many BladeForums members could watch the test. Several people came by and watched at least part of the test which went on for quite a while, nearly 3 hours!

Those who watched at least part of the test were:
Les De Asis, Kit Carson, Rob Simonich, Bob Taylor, Field & Stream magazine and many forum members plus several people I did not know.

The test was simple. We placed a 2X4 on a table and clamped it down. We made guides, to lay the rope down on the 1&1/2" track the rope would lay on, for the cut by simply drilling some screws into the wood. Then Jerry took out a HUGE roll of hemp from his van. Jennifer (Jerry's wife) and I both would count the cuts. We each had a calculator and simply added each cut as it went through.

We used a Basic #9 for the test. We marked the blade with a marker so Jerry would be able to easily see and use the same part of the blade. I was amazed Jerry wanted to do this test even though his hand is still recovering from his accident.

Anyway I will cut to the chase as I am still tired from the show and this very poorly written review is a Testament to that.

Jerry's previous rope cut test with a Basic #9 made it to 1,254 cuts. This is truly amazing but the fact was that he video taped this test and he told me the reason they stopped at that count was because he was running out of video tape. Well for our test he did not need a video tape as I witnessed the entire test from start to finish.

How many cuts did we get? 2,771! And we only stopped there because we ran out of rope!

After the 2,000th cut I was still able to shave my arm! At the 2,500 mark it lost the ability to shave but still sliced through paper really well. Lori took several pics of me shaving my arm and I will post those soon as well as the pics of the test.

Folks this is the most amazing thing I have ever scene when it comes to knives. During the test I wondered if the knife was actually just getting buffed by the rope. We even had hit the screws on the board at least 6 or so times. I was truly impressed and this has wet my appetite for a more complete test of the Basic line as soon a they ship."

Now further consider that this is cuts made through full one inch thick rope on a small section of blade, and with the Basic line, not even the actual full INFI line which is better still. Who has publically demonstrated superior performance? Not to mention there are other aspects of edge retention, for example chopping wood requires high toughness and hardness and is little influenced by wear resistance and thus INFI does very well.

In regards to the claim in general, Busse recently responded to another poster making the same claim about INFI :

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3479511&postcount=35

It would be responsible to at least contact the manufacturer, or do even a few simple searches before posting "facts".


-Cliff
 
So, knowing that the steel is good for chopping... for the average Joe Schmoe -me- who doesn't chop, would the INFI steel be good for a folder?

Just curious,
Cleary
 
FliGuyRyan said:
So, knowing that the steel is good for chopping... for the average Joe Schmoe -me- who doesn't chop, would the INFI steel be good for a folder?

Just curious,
Cleary
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It might be, but seeing as there is presently no such product I wouldn't worry about it. The rumors of such a mythical beast, though rampant, are only torture devices for cutlery aficionados. The Busse folder should be called Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Hmmm how about the SC folder or EB folder, I like the ring of those.
 
BlondieAlmostEdge said:
It might be, but seeing as there is presently no such product I wouldn't worry about it. The rumors of such a mythical beast, though rampant, are only torture devices for cutlery aficionados. The Busse folder should be called Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Hmmm how about the SC folder or EB folder, I like the ring of those.
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I am going to leave my Great grand kids a note to buy the Busse Folde when it comes out for me and ship it to Heaven (or maybe Hell) either Fed Ex or USPS/UPS with sign for it feature. I don't want someone stealing it.:thumbup:

As for the B9 test. Impressive to say the least and done in some impressive company. The price of my B9 just went up:D
 
Guys, guys! I can't believe you didn't realise that I was only joking about INFI and Carbon V being the same! I just think it's funny when a knife company give its steel a fancy title that can't be found on a regular steel chart the speculation and myth building begins at once.
As for a TROLL alert on my moniker Walking Stick, you would have to be a Devo fan to get it. They were a band that never appealed to narrow minded, ignorant, redneck bigots. No offense intended of course...
 
Yeah INFI is just a chipper steel. What ever a chipper is. :)
Crak that wip.
 
Jockohomo said:
They were a band that never appealed to narrow minded, ignorant, redneck bigots. No offense intended of course...
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Of course not.:jerkit:

Why would we have thought you were joking? You did not post in a manner that would give us even a clue that you weren't serious.
 
Razorback - Knives said:
Hey Keith, nice looking avatar knife.:thumbup: :D I met Rik at Blade last year and he is also a fellow Hoodlum on Ron Hood's forum. A nice guy too.;)
Scott
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Rik is definitely very talented. Not only as a knifemaker, but an artist as well.
 
Hi Keith, I did give a small clue that I was joking as I ended my first (and 2nd) post with an ellipsis. That's '...' for those who missed that day in school. This can indicate that more is being stated than the obvious. Hey, I'm a subtle kind of guy... (See, I just did it again!)
 
Jockohomo said:
Hi Keith, I did give a small clue that I was joking as I ended my first (and 2nd) post with an ellipsis. That's '...' for those who missed that day in school. This can indicate that more is being stated than the obvious. Hey, I'm a subtle kind of guy... (See, I just did it again!)
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Using ellipsis just means that you are ommiting something from the beginning, middle, or end of your quote. It can also indicate uncertainty or interruption. It doesn't in any way give a hint that you are joking, except maybe to you.

Anyway, INFI is an excellent steel and one that I wish could be purchased in bar stock.
 
Jockohomo said:
Guys, guys! I can't believe you didn't realise that I was only joking about INFI and Carbon V being the same! I just think it's funny when a knife company give its steel a fancy title that can't be found on a regular steel chart the speculation and myth building begins at once.
As for a TROLL alert on my moniker Walking Stick, you would have to be a Devo fan to get it. They were a band that never appealed to narrow minded, ignorant, redneck bigots. No offense intended of course...
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This post doesn't help your case at all. :thumbdn: (cough, troll, cough)
 
Keith, you are right up to a point. I think it might be the difference between American and British English. In Britain an ellipsis is often used to indicate a humourous intent. From the Greek 'elleipsis' meaning 'leave out', in this case I left out 'only joking'. Of course it wasn't all that funny in the first place and one is rather assuming that you are an American.
 
Walking Man, at least Keith has a point, you I just find offensive. I quote 'I think his title says it all. Troll alert!'
My title as in 'Jockohomo' emphasis on 'homo' no doubt. I don't know for sure but it sounds like you are saying 'looky here boys, we got us a fag!'.
Please tell me I'm wrong and you are not a hater?
 
Slightly off topic, but what about the shock steels like S7... Does anybody use one of those in a folder?
 
Jockohomo said:
Walking Man, at least Keith has a point, you I just find offensive.
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Sorry, that just doesn't mean anything to me at all, TROLL.
And quite frankly, since you're making a fool of yourself, I don't owe you one word of apology or one second of my time.
BTW, I'm putting you on my ignore list since you only seem to want to bother nice folks and get undue attention from others.
 
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