Whats the Differance????

Jason, Can you access Admiral steel from OZ? They have S30V for $53+ USD for 72" of 1" x 1/8". With shipping it should be considerably cheaper than you quote.
Bohler/Uddeholm North America (BUCorp) has O1 in the same size at 36" for $9.89 USD and D2 for about $.70/". Their website here is at flatground.com. They are world wide I believe.
 
It depends on the shape of the blade, the style of fashioning, the security of the handle and lock, the heat treatment, the manufacturing of the other components, the skill of the knifemaker, and the skills, needs, and desires of the user.

I've seen a 1084 hand-forged, multi-quenched, multi-tempered fixed blade that I want more than the S30V semi-custom fixed blade I've been eyeing. I have a 1095 stock-removal fixed blade that I enjoy more than any comparably-sized ATS-34 or 154CM fixed blade.

To me, M2 is the best because it's been the best to me. Not too long ago, AUS-8A was my pal.

Jason,

Maybe you could move to the USA where you'll be able to sell to a larger audience and buy your supplies for less. :D
 
I was just reading the post by SHGEO about the prices of steel. And I can't stop drooling ...

Hmmm. I'll make a few calls - thanks for that SHGEO. Jason.

PS.- and Thombrogan, don't think I haven't considered moving already !! Seriously, for a few minor drawbacks, Oz is a great spot in the world...
 
How can I be sure?

Groups of blame-minded Americans are seeking to sue our fast food franchises for allegedly enabling obesity. The most popular fast food place I've heard about in Australia is "Hungry Jack's".

Owning and carrying knives is a countrywide legal problem in Australia and New Zealand. In the USA, it's "stay out of Massachusetts". One commonwealth versus two countries.

OTOH, I'll bet your weather's better than the New England portion of the USA.
 
Originally posted by shgeo
Jason, Can you access Admiral steel from OZ? They have S30V for $53+ USD for 72" of 1" x 1/8". With shipping it should be considerably cheaper than you quote.
Bohler/Uddeholm North America (BUCorp) has O1 in the same size at 36" for $9.89 USD and D2 for about $.70/". Their website here is at flatground.com. They are world wide I believe.
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Try Crucible direct, they seem to be about 25% cheaper on the average then Admiral. And they will ship smaller pieces if you want it. Admiral, one sizes fits all.

http://www.crucibleservice.com/index.cfm

Ric
 
Well Thom you could just take my word for it.

Or, you could take a trip and find out for yourself.

I'm not talking just knives here, but the overall. I don't mean over and above anywhere else necessarily, either. Also, in real terms, our knife situation is more relaxed than you might think, I think. Meaning Au's are generally rather relaxed, at least in the sense of not being particularly mindful of what the strict letter might be. Still a consideration though, sure.

You mean Mass. is particularly bad for that kind of thing in your neck of the woods? Wonder why.

I don't eat any Fast Food these days and haven't for quite a while I'd think. But MacDonalds would be the most popular here, as in the US. Not quite sure how this comes into play though.

Yes I'd say the weather bet would be a safe one. The South is more interesting though - even have 'seasons' including a winter, by our reckoning.
 
Whereabouts are you ?

Actually, HUNGRY JACKS is BURGER KING - same thing, same colours, same burgers too I reckon, different names. Would Red Rooster be the only thing distinctly Aussie ? Don't think there's a US equivalent.

We are now way off topic...

I've had a look at a few sites and posted some emails about surface shipping, waiting for replies. I've heard some things about Admiral - not so good, but their website was actually down today so I'll look again later. A consistent, low extra-costs supply of S30V sounds like a real quest.

That source at http://www.flatground.com is awesome - look at their prices on O-1, D-2, A-2 and S-7 precision ground stock !!

Cheers. Jason.
 
In reference to RicBannon's post above:
Actually, for 1 1/2" x 5/32" S30V, I recently paid Crucible ~$109.00 for two 36" bars. Admiral's list for 6 feet of the same is ~$89.00. In this case Crucible is 25% higher.
Crucible doesn't publish a list of their prices on their website that I have found, so I don't have a comparison for all sizes.
 
Those prices must have changed recently. I called both Crucible and Admiral about three weeks ago about some S30V.25"x2.5"x72" and Crucible was about $30.00 cheaper shipped. And they said they would cut into smaller more manageable pieces where Admiral would not.
I guess we'll just have to shop around every time we need steel to see what current prices are.

Ric
 
Some examples: Try making a blade out of glass. Good hardness, but if you try to cut anything more resistant than the hair on your arm the lack of toughness will cause the edge to chip.
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I would not bet on that. I got a glass that will chop bone;).

Remember that LM1 from Liquidmetal IS a glass.
 
Originally posted by R.W.Clark
I would not bet on that. I got a glass that will chop bone;).

Remember that LM1 from Liquidmetal IS a glass.
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Can't wait to my hands on that stuff. R.W. do you know if it can be remolded? If you got a couple bars and melted it down in your shop and poored it into a mold? Or does it have to be done under special circumstances, IE: oxygen free atmosphere or some other strange process?
And do you know when it will be more availible? Thanks.

Ric
 
IT can be re-melted but it is more like recycling. It has to be done under very special processing. Not something you could do yourself.
 
thombrogan:

I am not sure what you meant by stay out of Massachusetts. If you are referring to the knife laws in that state [ I reside here ], you may be mistaken.

There is no blade length restriction in Massachusetss. Since 9-11 Boston made an ordinace that nothing over 2 1/2" can be carried in the city but it isn't enforced { I know as I work in town everyday and carry several that are illegal in the city now ]. PO's see the clips and never give you a second look if you aren't causing trouble.

As an instructor in defensivee knife tactics at S+W in Springfield I had the opportunity to research the dangerous weapons statue as part of their education in bladewares.

The statute is 269, 10b. 1994 case law specifically states that kitchen type knives, swiss army knives and folders are exempt from the statute".

Lets see, no blade length restriction on folders or straight blades.
I'd say that not too bad compared to others states dangerous weapons statutes that restrict heavily these items.

Brownie
 
Originally posted by R.W.Clark
IT can be re-melted but it is more like recycling. It has to be done under very special processing. Not something you could do yourself.
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R.W.,
Thanks. Do you have any idea when it will be more availible?

Ric
 
Ric, INFI is the steel your looking for, you know it, you have already proven that to yourself, just except it :D .

Now on to the real reason for your post, when do you plan on becoming a maker :footinmou , or is this for some personal projects.
 
Originally posted by cgd160
Ric, INFI is the steel your looking for, you know it, you have already proven that to yourself, just except it :D .

Now on to the real reason for your post, when do you plan on becoming a maker :footinmou , or is this for some personal projects.
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As for INFI, you are correct, it is a great steel and I would gladly use it but Jerry won't sell it. A few years back I asked if I could buy a piece, he said yes and quoted me a price. A little while later (couple months) I called back with my credit card and he said no. Said he sold some to some other maker and they screwed up the heat treat and made INFI look bad so he wasn't selling any more. Guess I missed my chance, Oh well, I'll find something as good or better.
As for me becoming a maker, I have been making knives sense I was in high school. Nothing major just stuff for friends and family. Every body has told me I should do it full time or at leaset part time as a business. So I'm going to give it a shot. Now I'm working on design ideas, putting some tools together just trying to get ready. Shouldn't be more that a month or so (after tax season) and I'll be posting some of my work. I'll let you know.

Ric

P.S.
Personal projects as well.
 
Why dont persons think about reason that ATS-34 is more famous
than from 154CM 30 years ago?They always say that USA version 154CM is more true as ATS-34 than now ATS-34.
But it is not rational discription because ATS-34 is ATS-34
simply.Are there any obious logic than that?
And also i dont want to say anything about now powder metallurgical blade steel for knife.
it is also important to make a balance between special carbide
hardness and matrix of metal.Chromium carbide is suitable.
But vanadium carbide(including NaCl crystal type metal-carbo-nitride) is not so suitable for such a needs.

japansteel
 
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