What's the Edge 2000 really mean?

TANGUS · May 26, 2000

I found out when I approached Joe Houser on this forum to see if they could put this edge on my 501MS (in BG-42). I had recently purchased this knife new in box for the sole purpose of replacing my small sebenza that I had just sold. Nope, I'm not crazy, for me I spotted a better value. I had bought a new 532 2000 series and decided to use the coupon enclosed. My 501MS just wasn't sharp. Sent it into Joe with the $5 required and I've received the finished product today. Well guys, the Buck guys didn't regrind my blade, they totally replaced my blade with an Edge 2000 blade. (I think Joe secretly wanted my old blade). Nonetheless, I am ecstatic over the results and the service given to me by the Joe and his staff. I strayed from Buck for about 10 years, but I'M BACK! These people offer outstanding customer service, really easy to say now a days, but damn hard to give. Hats off to Joe and his staff!

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Dannyc · May 28, 2000

That's cool.

Unfortunately, that didn't answer your original subject, which I was also planning to post, only you beat me to it... lol..

So, what's the difference between a regular edge, and a blade with the EDGE2000?

Dan

Joe Houser · May 31, 2000

Dan,

The diference is that we have totally changed the way we edge our knives. We shoot for an angle of about 30 degrees included. We have found this to be a great all around angle. Another big change is how we remove the burr after our edging process. We have switched to a hard leather wheel. This wheel does not "roll over" the edge and therefore the knife ends up extremely sharp.
The new sharpening process actually leaves some of the micro serrations from the edging operation. Those serrations definetely make the knife sharper. The edge may look a little rougher but it is worth it.

I hope this helps, and thank you Tangus for the comments!

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Joe Houser
Director of Quality, Buck Knives Inc.
Buck Collectors club Administrator

Dannyc · May 30, 2000

Hi Joe!

Thanks for explaining that one.

I recently got myself a Buck 110, and I honestly fell in love with it, even though it's already slightly used. I have similar ones made by Ka-Bar and Case, and they simply don't compare to the fit and finish of this old reliable.

Off-topic question, if you don't mind. Is the steel used on the Buck 110's blade the same as the ones used on the Crosslocks?

The edge on my Crosslock seems to always have some micro-serrations, no matter how many times I tried to resharpen it. The bevel is really thin, is this what the Edge2000 is all about? I remembered reading something about the Edge2000 knives having an "E" or something, which this crosslock doesn't seem to have, and yet...

Sorry about the tons of questions, Joe.

Just goes to show how much I appreciate your products.

Dan

[This message has been edited by Dannyc (edited 06-01-2000).]

dogboye · May 31, 2000

Danny, my Edge 2000 532 does not have any "E" stamped on it anywhere. It IS extremely sharp. The BG42 seems to be holding a shaving edge better than anything I used lately, although it hasn't encountered any staples yet, and it hasn't gone through my infamous cardboard recycle session yet. We'll see after that.

Joe (or, Mr. Houser), I have noticed that the edge on my 532 does seem to look rougher, but GEEZ!

it'll shave arm hair like crazy! When I first pulled the knife out of the box and looked at it, my first impression was, "WOW! What a beautiful knife, with all the filework, and the nice Indigo Royalwood." Then I opened it up, and was struck by the grind lines, which didn't seem like they had been finished (ie, the rough edge you mention). But, then I felt the edge, and used it a bit, and there's been no looking back. I hope that we see more BG42 steel in your regular line of folders, but especially more 532's. By far my favorite carry knife. And I really hope that we see some 532's in Pete's Custom shop. I'm holding off on purchasing another 532 2000, hoping that it will show up at Pete's.

Sorry this digressed, but I just wanted to back up some other people, including Mr. Houser. The Edge 2000 process is definitely an improvement.

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iktomi

Dannyc · May 31, 2000

Rockspyder,

Yep! Very true... even with all those micro-serrations, it still shaves hair as good as those polished ones.

So, no "e" ... hmmmm... really strange, I could've sworn I saw it on a post a few months ago.

Dan

Joe Houser · Jun 6, 2000

If you see a Buck knife with the letter E engraved on it, that means that it is an Employee knife and does not have a warrantee. Every now and then we find ourselves looking at a batch of finished knives that, although the flaw is minute, it cannot be worked out and it cannot be sold as is. Rather than scrap them out, we "sometimes" engrave an E on the blade and offer them to our employees.

Regarding the roughness of the edge 2000, I will be addressing that issue with our engineers in an attempt to make it more purty! The might be a few tricks we can try.

By the way, Please call me Joe, I don't do Formal very well.

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Joe Houser
Director of Quality, Buck Knives Inc.
Buck Collectors club Administrator

dogboye · Jun 8, 2000

Joe

, I am not suggesting making the edge less rough, by any means. In fact, I think it may help that nice, shaarrrrrrp feel. I certainly can't believe that it is detrimental, as sharp as my 532 is. Geez, I'd hate to think how sharp they would be if that roughness is actually hindering the sharpness!

To me, the Edge 2000 and the 532 hearkens back to the days when I got my first Buck, back in the late 70's, and it was the sweetest knife I had ever used.

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iktomi